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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Help!!! What is that word?!?! #166962 03/19/2007 12:07 AM Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3 jagola55 stranger jagola55 stranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Hi! I cannot find this word in the archives, but I know it was part of Word-A-Day in the past 2-3 years. A very loose definition would be "Bringing notice to a topic or issue by stating that you are going to ignore it." Such as, "We're not going to talk today about the fact that the company has nearly gone bankrupt during his tenure." Or, "I'm not going to mention the dishonesty and deceitfulness of the other candidate." I've been trying to find this word for six months now. Can anyone help?!?! Thank you! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Help!!! What is that word?!?! jagola55 #166964 03/19/2007 12:12 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass apophasis a figure of speech which alludes to something specific by denying that it will be mentioned (e.g., "I won't mention the fact that Representative Smith has been supporting three children from adulterous relationships.") [compare paraleipsis] Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Help!!! What is that word?!?! tsuwm #166966 03/19/2007 12:19 AM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,891 belMarduk Carpal Tunnel belMarduk Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,891 Seriously tsuwm, I am in awe, and admiration, of your memory. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Help!!! What is that word?!?! tsuwm #166967 03/19/2007 12:23 AM Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3 jagola55 stranger jagola55 stranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Wow! Thanks Joe for the immediate reply. You are really good. I've looked it up now and am a bit confused between usage of apophasis and paralipsis. Any thoughts on the difference? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Help!!! What is that word?!?! jagola55 #166970 03/19/2007 2:51 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 According to Silva Rhetoricae apophasis is the rejecting of several reasons for doing or not doing something and choosing only one. The word you're looking for really is paralipsis. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Help!!! What is that word?!?! Faldage #166971 03/19/2007 3:38 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass I have paraleipsis as: a figure of speech which implies something more serious by deliberately concise treatment (also written as paralepsis) (e.g. "I don't have time to mention Representative Jones's other faults.") [compare apophasis] now I'll have to re-research them to see if I might have reversed them.. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Help!!! What is that word?!?! tsuwm #166972 03/19/2007 3:48 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass I don't think anybody really understands these tropes.. M-W has paraleipsis: [from Greek paraleipsis neglect, omission] passing over with brief mention in order to emphasize rhetorically the suggestiveness of what is omitted - brief mention and apophesis: [from Greek, denial, negation] the raising of an issue by claiming not to mention it (as in "we won't discuss his past crimes") - claiming not to mention edit: actually, we've discussed these here before -- I'd forgotten I'd pulled a Jesse S. quote: The most important thing in any discussion like this is the fact that most rhetorical terms aren't defined quite as precisely as one would want or expect. I've always been interested by them, and I remember in college going to a professor of mine, the chairman of the classics department, to ask about some subtle distinction between two terms, and he basically laughed and said that it was completely irrelevant. That said, in _my_ understanding, _apophasis_ is actually saying something specific while denying that you are going talk about it (e.g. "I won't mention the fact that Representative Smith has been supporting three children from adulterous relationships"), while _paralipsis_ (in various spellings, or _pr(a)eteritio(n),_ which is the same thing with a totally different name_) is the implication of something more serious by deliberately concise treatment (e.g. "I don't have time to mention Representative Jones's other faults.") Last edited by tsuwm; 03/19/2007 4:04 AM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Help!!! What is that word?!?! tsuwm #166974 03/19/2007 11:05 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 I have found that Silva Rhet often disagrees with other sources. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Memory Enhancement belMarduk #166978 03/19/2007 2:00 PM Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Lyme, NH, US BobSteinVisiBone stranger BobSteinVisiBone stranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Lyme, NH, US Well I for one am not all that impressed with his memory. I won't even mention how it took him five minutes to look it up. And don't even get me started on his preterition. ;-) Last edited by BobSteinVisiBone; 03/19/2007 2:10 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Memory Enhancement BobSteinVisiBone #166981 03/19/2007 2:27 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Pretty good, Bob--welcome aBoard! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Memory Enhancement Jackie #166982 03/19/2007 2:33 PM Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3 jagola55 stranger jagola55 stranger Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3 This board is too good! I am in awe. Thank you very much! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Memory Enhancement jagola55 #166991 03/19/2007 3:41 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont > preterition just stay away from Calvin. welcome aBoard, Boneman. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Memory Enhancement jagola55 #167004 03/19/2007 6:49 PM Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 293 Orlando ParkinT enthusiast ParkinT enthusiast Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 293 Orlando Originally Posted By: jagola55 I am in awe. Is that in southern Nebraska? 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