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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Separating the wheat from the chaff #157808 03/24/2006 10:33 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,788 Seattle, Washington, USA Father Steve Carpal Tunnel Father Steve Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,788 Seattle, Washington, USA Here is a novel use of a verbed noun and an old verb in a new context: Chaffing and Winnowing Advanced Chaffing and Winnowing Last edited by Father Steve; 03/25/2006 3:57 AM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Separating fhe wheat from the chaff #157809 03/24/2006 11:59 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Goodness gracious--first I learn that printers can make 3D objects, and now this! What is this world coming to? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Separating the we'd from the chav #157810 03/27/2006 2:15 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 heh, chaff I chaff thunk chaff you chaff wuz chaff gonna chaff complain chaff that chaff chaffing chaff shoulda chaff properly chaff been chaff called chaff de-chaffing... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Separating the wheat from the chaff #157811 03/27/2006 2:22 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,027 Switzerland wsieber old hand wsieber old hand Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,027 Switzerland Interesting - but I wonder if the chaff generation can easily be automated: in order to fulfill its function (hiding the wheat), the chaff must be closely adapted to the specific valid content. It cannot be nonsensical, otherwise it would be recognised. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Separating the wheat from the chaff #157812 03/27/2006 5:12 PM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,379 New York City inselpeter Pooh-Bah inselpeter Pooh-Bah Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,379 New York City >>easily automated<< What if every word, or part thereof, were keyed? *** A couple of four years ago, the Economist ran a piece about quantum encryption, where the key would be completely random from the point of view of everyone but the sender and the recipient. Seems smaller, simpler and more elegant to me. (Not that the whole topic of quantum mechanics isn't a bit random to this Druid). Last edited by inselpeter; 03/27/2006 5:15 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Separating the wheat from the chaff #157813 03/28/2006 2:13 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta Bingley Carpal Tunnel Bingley Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 3,065 Jakarta If I understand this correctly after a cursory glance, it hardly seems new. I'm sure I've heard of messages being sent long before computerisation where only certain words (say every 10th word or the third word on each line) were part of the real message and then an innocuous sounding message was written round those words to hide them. Bingley Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Separating the cheat from the wwftd #157814 03/28/2006 2:19 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 You're right, of course, Bing - the 'mask over the text' approach and similar (is there a specific word for that?) - this is just an updated implementation of the unscrambling of chaff and kernel. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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