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#154100 01/18/2006 6:06 AM
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I wrote some rather conservative advice to a younger churchman in the Mother Country and received an e-mail response which accused me of being "naff." In cross-pondian terms, this is not a good thing, is it?

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No. Tacky, uncool, square.

Whoops, sorry Tsuwm. I was called away mid-post.

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Any idea how old this word is?

#154104 01/18/2006 12:49 PM
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> how old

It formed an essential ingredient of Ian La Fresnais & Dick Clements' script for Porridge which starred Ronnie Barker as a convict - it allowed a swear-word euphemism on prime-time (Sunday evening?) family TV. I seem to remember it gained even further prominence when it was adopted by Princess Anne on one notable occasion when talking to a journalist.

Ronnie Barker always claimed to have coined the word, but I believe it actually comes from Polari, the gay and actors' coded language. Although probably backronymic, some commentators have claimed it was code for "not available for fucking"; whether true or not, it certainly was used to describe straights in Polari.

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Holy cow, maverick; I had no idea. [aunt nells perking up]
have you ever met a waiter, bartender or, indeed, drag queen, who hails from Rio or Madrid, Paris or Rome? Well--no.

It's interesting, isn't it--the many many different points of view people have? Ex.: ...the difficult years between the trial of Oscar Wilde and the 1967 Sexual Offences Act. (ea) My first response was: they were?

Okay--now I know that the British have Cockney rhyming slang, and polari (Polari?); do we US'n's have anything comparable? I mean, a kind of code-language, not simply regional idioms.

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Thanks for that link, tsuwm. Reading all these words makes me feel my knowledge of fancy words is not enaff, or just naff.

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hehheh - as a straight American woman I'd guess your perspective on those years *would be a bit different to that Grauniad writer's!

Did you notice the lovely credit-line to the article?

colin, horn, erection […] Colin Richardson is a former editor of Gay Times.

He’s not only horny by first name but also the son of a Dick!

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>son of a Dick

Aren't we all.

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"Well, not really," said Louise Brown, as she went off singing, "All I want is a womb somewhere. . .."


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A misunderstanding arose on safari,
And a beating commenced, I am sorry
To say, by a moodge with a bat,
Speaking only nadsat,
On a poor molly well versed in polari.

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#154111 01/18/2006 4:03 PM
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Quote:

hehheh - as a straight American woman I'd guess ...




You are?! Coulda fooled me...

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as a straight American woman I'd guess ... yes, how else?!

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I'd got the Colin/colin bit, but missed the son of a Dick!

The word Polari reminds me of the song Volare... [not relevant to anything icon]

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Richardson => son of Richard => son of Dick => Dixon / Dickens => zum Teufel gehen. La.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Dickens => zum Teufel gehen

?

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The Dickens == the devil ; Teufel == the devil (auf Deutsch) :- lit. 'go to the devil / hell' ...


Ceci n'est pas un seing.

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