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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Mongrelization of words among languages #153516 01/09/2006 6:43 PM Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Massachusetts, USA larryberger stranger larryberger stranger Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Massachusetts, USA Vis a vis budget being a mongrel word that went into english from french, was transformed and then went back into french with a new sense, when the Romans conquered England, many Latin words came into English, of course, but several English words went into Latin and then came back into English as Latin words. I simply don't understand why the French get upset when words from other languages enter theirs. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: Mongrelization of words among languages #153517 01/09/2006 7:30 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Not quite sure what a mongrel is. It seems from the way you're using it, it's what historical linguists call a loanword. I can't think of any words that went from English into Latin and then back into English. When the Romans were in Britain, the tribes who later became the English were still mucking about in Jutland and NW Germany. Latin had pretty much ceased to be a first language by the time that Old English is recorded (e.g., roughly the 7th century CE). The French may be upset by it, but their language has lots of loanwords, besides the base vocabulary from Latin: e.g., a few Gaulish words, Frankish words, Spanish and Italian words, some from Provencal. As for budget, it seems to have come into English via Norman French, which got it from Latin. The Romans had borrowed a Celtic word; I'm not sure if this word was from Gaulish or some other Continental Celtic. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,917 Posts230,540 Members9,211 Most Online17,319 Apr 8th, 2026 Newest Members Boo boo kitty fu, peterreineck, Peripatetic Toad, JerryC, blvd 9,211 Registered Users Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 14 A C Bowden 1 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 wofahulicodoc 11,332 tsuwm 10,542 LukeJavan8 9,974 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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