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#152036 12/13/2005 11:35 AM
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Some of the similies like as swift as an arrow or as clean as a whistle are more common than others...

Recently i heard someone say .... as serious as dead man .....

is this is a classical simile or just a interesting invention....

i have also heard the usage ...dead serious...what about this phrase?

Thanks in advance...

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Recently i heard someone say .... as serious as dead man ..... [...] i have also heard the usage ...dead serious...what about this phrase?




I've never heard serious as a dead man before, but it's obviously a (very bad) play on dead serious (where, by the way, dead means not deceased but complete; absolute re "we sat in dead silence.")

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I've never heard that expession, either. I've heard "as serious as a heart attack", though.

#152039 12/13/2005 12:10 PM
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> not deceased but complete

Not sure about that - I think the latter is just a connotative abstraction drawn from the original meaning, which was clearly related to death.

fwiw, the phrase deadly serious is almost as common as dead serious - 528 gitz against 583 gitz (YMMV). I too have not previously heard the 'dead man' expression - seems a little laboured in its extension of the metaphor.

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What's up with all the dots?...............

please see:

http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=155374

#152041 12/13/2005 12:57 PM
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And, I have heard: "as serious as cancer."


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#152042 12/13/2005 2:49 PM
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I get only two hits on "serious as dead man walking"

...two on "calm as a..."; 13 on "wired as a..."; 21 on "good as a..."

1040 without "serious," only a few of which preceded by an adjective

While it's slightly OT, over a million hits on just "dead man walking"

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Recently i heard someone say .... as serious as dead man ..... [...] i have also heard the usage ...dead serious...what about this phrase?




I've never heard serious as a dead man before, but it's obviously a (very bad) play on dead serious (where, by the way, dead means not deceased but complete; absolute re "we sat in dead silence.")




Or was it, "as serious as dead, man?" Your post, tuhin, is ambiguous.

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yeah, sorry Dale, I should have made my comment more explicit: I am also very familiar with the 'dead man walking' construction, but not with the 'as... as...' phrase using 'dead man'. There are also other such general constructions, notably to do with dead men on pirate's chests!

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Mav, no need for an apology, my followup was in no way intended as a criticism


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