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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread dirigisme and its adjective derivative dirigiste #149988 11/09/2005 2:50 AM Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2 FL sdorr stranger sdorr stranger Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2 FL all I can find on etymology is French, 1950s. Does anyone have an idea? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dirigisme and its adjective derivative dirigis #149989 11/09/2005 3:08 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass French, from diriger to direct (from Latin dirigere) from M-W online, via OneLook Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dirigisme and its adjective derivative dirigis #149990 11/10/2005 11:56 AM Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,636 Caribbean consuelo Carpal Tunnel consuelo Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,636 Caribbean Also dirigir in Spanish, from the same Latin root. To direct or guide. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dirigisme and its adjective derivative dirigis #149991 05/22/2006 6:34 PM Joined: May 2005 Posts: 456 SE US Aramis addict Aramis addict Joined: May 2005 Posts: 456 SE US Would have guessed a French translation for a belief in flying in airships. ÅΓª╥┐↕§ Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dirigisme and its adjective derivative dirigiste sdorr #169734 08/29/2007 1:06 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Jose Gros stranger Jose Gros stranger Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Dirigisme, as several correctly identified, is linked to director, diriger, dirigir, drive or lead. It is a word frequently used within the left organizations and some religious ones in Spain to define people from the "nomenclature" or "apparatchicks" that want to control and lead even the simplest activities of a group. So it is a negative qualificative meaning word. Surprised that doubts arouse about this word, when one considers that more than 60% of english word come from latin. May be anglosaxons are more latino than they realize ! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dirigisme and its adjective derivative dirigiste Jose Gros #170928 10/27/2007 4:01 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Jose Gros stranger Jose Gros stranger Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Originally Posted By: Jose Gros Dirigisme, as several correctly identified, is linked to director, diriger, dirigir, drive or lead. It is a word frequently used within the left organizations and some religious ones in Spain to define people from the "nomenklature" , "apparatchicks" or "deus ex machina" that want to control and lead even the simplest activities of a group. So it is a negative qualificative meaning word. Surprised that doubts arouse about this word, when one considers that more than 60% of english words come from latin. May be anglosaxons are more latino than they realize ! Last edited by Jose Gros; 10/27/2007 4:03 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dirigisme and its adjective derivative dirigiste Jose Gros #170929 10/27/2007 9:43 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague From Trésor DIRIGISME, subst. masc. Doctrine politico-économique préconisant l'intervention de l'État dans la libre entreprise (directives de production, contrôle des prix de vente, du crédit, etc.) : Political-economical doctrin etc. Prononc. : [diʀiʒism]. Étymol. et Hist. 1941 (M. Déat ds L'Œuvre, 21 févr.). Dér. du rad. de diriger*; suff. -isme*. Fréq. abs. littér. : 1. Bbg. Dub. Dér. 1962, p. 35. − Glättli (H.). Vox rom. 1952, t. 12, p. 388. When you look up the Etymology of diriger in Trésor you get this: DIRIGER, verbe trans. Étymol. et Hist. 1. 1381 « faire aller dans un certain sens (ici fig.) » (Le Grand schisme, 6 ds Romania, t. 24, p. 211); 2. 1495 « conduire d'après certaines règles » (Jeh. de Vignay, Mir. hist., XXVII, 58, éd. 1531 ds R. Hist. litt. Fr., t. 10, 1903, p. 327); 1611 (Cotgr.); spéc. 1656 casuistique diriger l'intention (Pascal, Provinciales, éd. L. Lafuma, 7e lettre, p. 397 b); 3. 1690 diriger la conscience, les études (Fur.); 1900 part. prés. subst. pol. « personnage qui dirige » (Nouv. Lar. ill.). Empr. au lat. class. dirigere from classical latin dirigere.DIRIGER, verbe trans. « donner une direction déterminée » et « régler ». Last edited by BranShea; 10/27/2007 9:49 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dirigisme and its adjective derivative dirigiste Jose Gros #171424 11/17/2007 8:34 AM Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 99 Hungarian Gypsy R. Eastcourt journeyman R. Eastcourt journeyman Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 99 Hungarian Gypsy Originally Posted By: Jose Gros Dirigisme, as several correctly identified, is linked to director, diriger, dirigir, drive or lead. It is a word frequently used within the left organizations and some religious ones in Spain to define people from the "nomenclature" or "apparatchicks" that want to control and lead even the simplest activities of a group. So it is a negative qualificative meaning word. Surprised that doubts arouse about this word, when one considers that more than 60% of english word come from latin. May be anglosaxons are more latino than they realize ! Oh, this from an ascerbic,diffident,soul. May be that latinos are more simian than they want to admit. 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