>Once upon a time, not so long ago, this was exactly the place for philosophical discussion. In fact, that was why most of us were here. It was a forum for discussion of ideas about words and about words as a means of expressing ideas.

I remember such a place.

It existed before Sat Aug 4 00:16:16 2001. After that date some of us were told what we could discuss and what we could not discuss, when some of us thought that this was a forum open for discussion for people anywhere in the world. I used to think that all the serious problems of this board started in September, when as I remember some of us were deeply concerned about other members of this board (but obviously not as much as the new guy in town). I now realise that because I was not around last August when the demolition derby started. Amazing, it took so few days to cause so much havoc.

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