Well, if my lemmingly behavior helps illustrate the point, I voted with the knife in part because it seemed plausible enough, and in part because there were others who seemed to agree that it seemed plausible enough (therein reinforcing my own choice). Therefore, tsuwm (if I may be so bold) was attempting to throw a red herring in order to affect similar flocking. jimthedog came sniffing, but no one else bit... nice try, tsuwm. [shrug]