aramis,until your post, the topic was words (not politics)

let's keep to words. (yes, i know, dale is constantly asking about words/expressions, and all too often, the words or expression he cites are in text that is political in nature, IGNORE THE MESSAGE, focus on the word(s) in question.

if you want to discuss politics, there are plenty of BB's devoted to the subject. this is not one.

my other obsession