Capfka, there is the word horrible there modifying NY accent- and no i don't have a horrid NY accent.

(i.e., Fran Dresier, in the Nanny, nor do i say tirty turd and turd, for thirty third and third.) i do have a mid atlantic accent, and there are only a few words that are "NY"-
Wanna second opinion? --i take it from your post , that had me laughing out loud, you have already made clear, your opinion!

(Dear tross- an number of us carpel's (as an other new comer named us) have met each other, and developed a comradery, - Capfka about half right- i am strange (but i know that!) and for him to comment on strong, horrid accents, is a definatly case of the pot calling the kettle black!)