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#99516 03/27/03 09:33 AM
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tsuwm's useless word compotation today caught my eye and probably ear, too, since I've been hearing reports of the need for 'potable' water in southern Iraq. tsuwm informed us that compotation is the act of drinking together. I'll assume that the 'pot' is a root having to do with drinking that connects compotation and potable.

But my question is: What are some other words that have to do with drinking that derive from the 'pot' root [Latin: potare]?


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?potion


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"Potable" and all related words hark back to one of the most debowdlerised Latin words used by that thirsty race. Here are some related Latin words from an online dictionary and their English definitions. You can tell that the meaning and content of the basic word poto potare potavi potatum underwent expansion over time ...

potatio -onis f. [a drinking bout].

potio (1) -onis f. [drinking; a drink , a draught]; esp. [a love-draught, philtre].

poto potare potavi potatum and potum [to drink]; esp. [to drink heavily]; of things , [to absorb]. Hence partic. potus -a -um: pass. [drunk, drained]; act. [having drunk, drunken].

potor -oris m. [a drinker]; esp. [a tippler , drunkard].

potulentus (poculentus) -a -um [drinkable; drunk , intoxicated].

potus (1) -a -um partic. from poto; q.v.

potus (2) -us m. [a drinking , draught].

FWIW

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symposium?


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symposium

Same IE root but through the Latin from the Greek, posis, drinking.


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Let us not forget our men who are fighting in Mesopotamia,
"The land between the rivers" (Tigris and Euphrates).

Dear WW: and they might see a hippopotamux.

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Mesopotamia

Different root:
http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE405.html

We been through this before.

Closer related are beer, bibulous and poison:
http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE417.html


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Dear Faldage: what is your point? the citation in AHD says
"pet" and "pot" words are from same root
And I have seen Mesopotamia" called the lande between the rivers by competent scholars.
And the bulbous beasts called "river horses" by ditto.


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coincidentally (or not), I received this reply from a subscriber: this would be a synonym for Symposium - no? Coming through a different root language?

I should send this guy a link..

p.s. - following up on Pfranz' post, I offer a little drink of love potion #9 to Faldage and dr. bill.



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the citation in AHD says "pet" and "pot" words are from same root

Yeahbutİ, poi isn't.


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Mesopotamia

Different root:


Let's see you prove it,Faldage

And I couldn't find any post mentioniing "poi".


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Mesopotamia

Speakng of Mesopotamia brings to mind "pottage," as in "selling one's birthright for a mess of pottage." Do the "pot" in "pottage" and for that matter in "pot" (as in "not calling the kettle black") come from the same potare root?


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Next thang you're gonna try and convince us Hawaiian is an IE language, Faldage. Well, I for one won't fall for it.


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Sometimes, I simply do not comprehend any of the goings-on (shaking head in utter bewilderment e) 'Poi' especially is sailing over my head.

Faldage's link suggested that the greek 'potamos' is the root for both Mesopotamia and the adorable hippo. Does that apply also to the Potomac?

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potare(L): Potable, Potatory, Potation
potamos(G): Mesopotamia, Hippopotamus
potio(L): Potion, Poison
posis(G): Symposium

Phew!

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I looked up compote, as in stewed fruit, sometimes delicious and otherwise disgusting--but that 'pot' in compote was unrelated. Turned out to be more related to compost, and, I'll tell you one thing, some fruit compotes in my experience have tasted more like compost than fruit.


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We been through this before.
Dear Faldage: what have you been drinking?
Neither of your citations contain anytghing contradicting
etymology of "Mesopotamia" for which I can find a half dozen
sites supporting "Land between the rivers".
And as always, I deplore attitude of oldtimers that newcomers should read 100,000 posts lest they duplicate one.
Badword that. Double badword that. In Spades.



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contradicting etymology of "Mesopotamia" for which I can find a half dozen sites supporting "Land between the rivers".

I din't never said they wan't no connection atween potamia and rivers. It's potamia and potable they ain' no connection atween.

Geesh!


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How do you know what compost tastes like, WW? hey, somebody hadda ask it


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know what compost tastes like

synaesthesia, eh?


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In reply to:

How do you know what compost tastes like, WW?


...power of the imagination, pure and simple--but maybe not quite pure.


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and they might see a hippopotamux


Excuse me, Dr Bill, I think the proper spelling is Hippopotomattox, a rather large, Rebel river horse.




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How do you know what compost tastes like, WW?


Sheesh! She works in a school....take a little compost, add a little Ketchup and Bob's your uncle...




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