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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 2 1 2 Re: Piccadilly Circus #98509 03/17/03 02:36 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Dear dxb: It was many years before I learned that John of Gaunt was so named not because he was undernourished, but because he had been born in Ghent, which the history books didn't mention. And it was a long time before I learned the pronunciation of Ghent. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Piccadilly Circus #98510 03/17/03 09:08 PM Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 742 Akina S sjm old hand sjm old hand S Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 742 Akina >And it was a long time before I learned the pronunciation of Ghent. Which one? It varies, depending on whether one pronounces it in Flemish, or in Wallonian. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Pickardill - definition #98511 03/18/03 09:35 AM Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK D dxb OP Pooh-Bah OP dxb Pooh-Bah D Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK I’ll try the OED when I get home tonight and see if it has more to say. Piccadill. Obs. ‘the several divisions or pieces fastened together about the brim of the collar of a doublet’ (1611) app. Answering to a. Sp. ‘piccadillo’, diminutive of picado – pricked, pierced, slashed, minced [cf. picado – a puncture, picadillo – minced meat, hash]. As to the connection of Pickadilly Hall with this word, various conjectures were current already at the time of Blount, 1656, who mentions two: either ‘because it was then the outmost or skirt house of the suburbs that way’ or ‘ from this, that Higgins a tailor, who built it, got most of his estate by pickadilles, which in the last age (= generation) were much worn in England.’ Jackie mentioned ‘peccadillo’, apparently this also comes from Spanish – peccadillo, diminutive of pecado, sin. A small or venial fault or sin; a trifling offense. So, picado > Piccadilly, pecado > peccadillo. No connection with pigs, that’s a whole ‘nother story. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 2 of 2 1 2 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,913 Posts229,352 Members9,182 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV 9,182 Registered Users Who's Online Now 1 members (wofahulicodoc), 494 guests, and 0 robots. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 28 A C Bowden 22 LukeJavan8 2 ddrinnan 1 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 wofahulicodoc 10,550 tsuwm 10,542 LukeJavan8 9,918 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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