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#83874 10/20/02 06:47 PM
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sabbath as the day of the bath is all washed up..

sabbath comes from shabat, from shavos, the hewbrew word for rest... good shabbas, is a common greeting here in NY on a friday.

it is also the root of sabbatical, since according to jewish law, not only do you rest once every seveth day, but you should also have a sabbital, and let your field lie fallow once every seven years, and forgive debt older than 7 years. teachering are one of the few career position that still enjoy the right to a sabbital.

the jewish philosphy of the sabbath is an interesting one.. i'll see if i can find some info on it...

Saturday is of course, Saturn day...


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WW, tsuwm is engaged in a little reflexive extraction.


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Dear WW: When I am preposterous, don't take me seriously. Incidentally, my dictionarys
first definition of "preposterious" is "originally, wth the first last and the last first, inverted"


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Hi, of troy...

The sabbatical connection and the seven years:

What is the jubilee? Wasn't that an occasion for all debts being dropped, too? I don't recall how many years were involved, but it may have been seven years, too. I think it's a wonderful tradition and too bad it didn't have staying power. I suppose we have bankruptcy as a substitute.


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The original jubilee was every fifty years. Debts were forgiven, slaves were freed, alienated properties were restored to original owners and the land was not tilled. Modern usage makes it any significant anniversary, particularly 25th, 50th, 60th or 75th.

(Freely stolen from AHD)


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What is a jubilee? I'm glad you asked, because I did not know. My dictionary says:
jubilee
n.
ME < OFr jubile < LL(Ec) jubilaeus < Gr(Ec) ibbclaios < Heb ybbcl, a ram, ram‘s horn used as a trumpet to announce the sabbatical year: infl. by L jubilum: see JUBILATE 6
1 Jewish History a year-long celebration held every fifty years in which all bondmen were freed, mortgaged lands were restored to the original owners, and land was left fallow: Lev. 25:8-17
2 a) an anniversary, esp. a 50th or 25th anniversary b) a celebration of this
3 a time or occasion of rejoicing
4 jubilation; rejoicing
5 R.C.Ch. a year proclaimed as a solemn time for gaining a plenary indulgence and for receiving absolution, on certain conditions: an ordinary jubilee occurs every twenty-five years



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sabbath comes from shabat, from shavos, the Hebrew word for rest

I thought they all came from the word meaning "seven," because the resting came on the seventh day. Am I all wet?




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Only if you just got out of the bath. Or shower. Who bathes these days? The idea of
sitting in polluted water is revolting.


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Sabbath - O.E. sabat "Saturday," observed by the Jews as
a day of rest, from L. sabbatum, from Gk. sabbaton, from
Heb. shabbath, from shabath "he rested." The Babylonians
regarded seventh days as unlucky, and avoided certain
activities then; the Jewish observance may have begun as a
similar custom. From the seventh day of the week, it began
to be applied c.1410 to the first day (Sunday), a change
completed during the Reformation. The original meaning is
preserved in Sp. Sabado, It. Sabbato, and other languages'
names for "Saturday." Sabbat "witches' sabbath" is 1652,
from the Fr. form of sabbath, a special application of the
word. Sabaoth (M.E.) is from Heb. sebaoth "hosts," plural
of saba "army," a word originally left untranslated in the
New Testament and "Te Deum" in the designation Lord of
Sabaoth, often confused with sabbath.


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For a scholarly discussion too long to post here, see:
http://biblesabbath.org/tss/487/universa.html


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