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#78711 08/29/02 12:16 PM
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Watch out, Jackie. You've set Faldage to dreaming about transitive & intransitive verbs.


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Do you-all really say first September?

Lessee... I was just aware that sometimes I sort of read out what I see as regards date formats, but at others I translate them. Just curious as to regional variations.
Oh, and I forgot about the holiday/vacation thang. D'oh.

But for me,

"I'm seeing Jackie on 1st September"
would be spoken as:
"I'm seeing Jackie on the first o' September"
[the of is in the process of disappearing]

"I'm seeing Jackie on 01/09/02"
would be spoken as:
"I'm seeing Jackie on the first o' the ninth of oh two"
[first of disappearing]

This may be an individual rather than a cultural reading, however.


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"I'm seeing Jackie on the first o' the ninth of oh two"
[first of disappearing]

Well now--grant me for argument's sake that it would be acceptable to say a ninth, where you have the ninth. I'd be willing to bet that the statement would become "I'm seeing Jackie on the first of a ninth of oh two". Or if we plan our rendezvous twenty years from now, it would be "I'm seeing Jackie on the first o' the ninth o' twenty-two". I think whether the v sound is dropped or not depends on the first sound of the word that follows it.



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I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "first of the ninth of oh two". "First of the ninth", yeah, occasionally, but adding the year in like that just seems stilted to me.



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This is madness. I have never heard anyone say they're meeting someone on the 1st of the/a 9th....etc. Any of those. Never.

Sure, people would spell it out: I'm seeing someone on the ninth of September.

Or : I'm seeing everyone on the ninth of September in '03 (or 'in two thousand three')...

But never: "I'm seeing Jackie and everybody else on the first of the ninth..." where 9th means a month.

Closest I can get to this (while my head nods and I need to get to sleep) would be my response to an agency for a date. I might say, "O-eight; O-twenty-four; forty-two," for example, for August 24, 1942, but I'd have to be pretty sure that the person on the other end was filling in blanks and was accumstomed to translating dates this way.

Oh, well. It's probably lack of sleep at this point, but those examples up there I've never heard people use in everyday speech.

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"O-eight; O-twenty-four; forty-two,"

O-eight O-twenty four??? How many days they got in a month down there in Virginia??


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Fun Faldage observes:

O-eight O-twenty four??? How many days they got in a month down there in Virginia??

You know, Faldage, I am so happy that you're back writing on AWAD again. A day without your catching me in writing errors just ain't a good day.

By the way, why are articles called "articles." It's weird when you think about it. I mean, to read an article in a newspaper or magazine, well, that's something of length, right?

But articles are little bitty words: one, two, three letters. I mean, the word article has more letters than a, an, and the all added up together. Bet I made everybody add up those letters--ha!

What gives?

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..I'm seeing everyone on the ninth of September in '03

The year usage is around, though perhaps a bit quaint and/or dated. Stereotype: an old codger offers a remark equivalent to "...why, Ah remember the big hurricaine back in September of Aught-two..."

I've heard people use "first September" in all seriousness; generally they have been British-educated or trained. Never "first Ninth," though.

Afterthought: in the present context, is there a difference between an "article" and a "particle" ?

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Afterthought: in the present context, is there a difference between an "article" and a "particle" ?
Not a...


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When ought a naught be an aught?


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