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Remember, if you don't vote you get exactly the kind of representation you deserve!
Here are this round’s entries. (EDITED: The word is mackenzie.) I will freely admit that some of them are so clever that I am tempted to vote for them myself. Just tempted, mind you!
At the end of the competition I am going to reveal the entire definition as forwarded to me for each of these. I did some editing to make them all pretty much equal in “value”, eliminating some very clever explanations that accompanied the definitions you see before you. Would it be fair to say that voting closes at 2400 Zulu time next Sunday? If you want longer that’s fine by me.
A. a valve which introduces steam into a small chamber attached to the flywheel of a compound steam engine in order to slow it down. A form of steam-brake.
B. a large switch-blade knife with a leather grasp
C. a heavy overcoat for cold/raw weather, used in Australia and other places south of the equator - analogous to the Mackintosh of Northern climes.
D. explorer, adventurer -- someone who travels into little known regions (especially for some scientific purpose)
E. The tendency for daughters of celebrities to devolve into drug and alcohol addiction at the peak of her career. See also: tatum.
F. Scottish slang for male genitalia
G. An applause meter
H. a device that facilitates downhole borehole location. I. A device for mechanically threading automated knitting machines, designed by E. W. MacKenzie during the industrial boom of the 1800s.
J. A hold from traditional freestyle (a.k.a. "Lancashire") wrestling.
K. anyone or anything that is hopelessly old-fashioned
L. to incur a debt of honour or to apply for protection
M. a jocular term for the faux-German spoken on TV shows such as Hogan's Heros, from mach und zie
N. A Choctaw version of the English fox hunt.
O. Any telescopic umbrella.
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Hey, Ted! You forgot to put the word that's being defined!
Just thought you'd like to insert it, ya' know? WW
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Well, Dub-dub; I s'pose you could look under hogwash redux . . . Any which way, here's my vote, for what it's worth: given the Scots' genius for engineering, it's got to be either A or H, I think But I guess A sounds most plausible
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I'll also vote first, while I'm at it. And I'll vote for M, not because it begins with an M like "MacKenzie" and not because I think that's the real definition, which I don't know, but because it made me laugh out loud. Very clever definition that M. In other words: my vote has been cast for M's spirit of creativity.
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I love E - whoever submitted that one gets my vote for best sarcastic attitude.
For the game however, I believe it's Gotta B B.
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Since I've never played before, I have little to lose. That's AOK with me.
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Call me adventurous, but I'm going for D.
Thanks for running this, TEd!
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Through a process of elimination I conclude the answer has to be M.
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I tried that too, but ended up eliminating all (: -- so I too will go with M, 'cuz I like it.
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I guess I'd better vote since I'm going away for the weekend and might forget I hadn't voted yet. BTW, TEd, no fair editing. How'm I supposed to be able to guess which one Milum wrote?
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TEd, no fair editing. How'm I supposed to be able to guess which one Milum wrote? ~ consuello Hear hear, consuello, for that matter how can we tell what anyone wrote? In Ted's misguided attempt at fairness, which we may presume that he got when he was mail-boy at the CIA, he forgot that Hogwash has nothing to do with fairness. Hogwash is about lying, cheating, and otherwise trying to take advantage of the ignorance of our fellow man. Ted's kinder, sweeter, more gentle brand of Hogwash has rendered the fat hawg bland. ----> Now forget fairness, TEdmaster, forget those that have already voted... tough taters! Now we (the voting public) would like for you to post a list of everyone who submitted a Hodwash definition, so that we may gain unfair advantage by their idiosyncrasies and foibles. _________ thegreat>>>tsuwn<<<thegreat always did._______
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nilum>>>tsuwn<<< always did
1. had you bothered to check the hogwash archives®, you would know that I was very inconsistent on this point (which was in and of itself consistent) 2. on the other hand, you always misspell my handle
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This time, the dart landed on my screen nearest the J.
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I can Cthat my definition is most LMNtOrE compared to the other entrants so I'L B A fool to the ND and vote for the obvious FK, J. 'K?
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Since I've never played before, I have little to lose.Hmmmm..... "When you ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose."" --Bob Dylan
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I'm thinking J too. (No darts are harmed in the getting of this decision)
(Isn't it a hat too though)
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Can't vote this time. Between the righteous and the clever I am asea.
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OK. Hogmaster Ted has chosen not to reveal the names of those who have contributed definitions to this round of Hogwash, therefore I can only be certain of the identities of only two contributors, Ted, who as Hogmaster supplies the correct definition, and me, whose definition is false. So let's see...the last time Ted was Hogmaster he supplied the word "sedgwick" meaning "a screw for a knob on a drawer." GEE! IT"LL BE HARD FOR TED TO TOP THE EXCITEMENT OF THAT LITTLE ZINGER, WON'T IT GANG! Not so fast...many a man has fallen by by the wayside by underestimating Ted's compassion for the boring and mundane...huh?...boring and mundane? Wait! That's it! the answer is --> H <--. mackenzie: a device that facilitates downhole borehole location.Thanks Ted, for just being you. - -
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Can't vote this time. Between the righteous and the clever I am asea.There's a word for that, you know...... cop-out!
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>> Can't vote this time. Between the righteous and the clever I am asea.> There's a word for that, you know......cop-out! Huh. I thought that was ASp's way of voting for C.
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Here are the complete definitions along with the results.
A. mackenzie n. (abbrev. for mackenzie valve) a valve which introduces steam into a small chamber attached to the flywheel of a compound steam engine in order to slow it down. A form of steam-brake. Named for it's inventor, Gregor MacKenzie (1837-1901), a noted steam engineer who worked for Avelin Steam Company, Kent, England. (from RhubarbCommando, who got a vote from sjm in addition to his own bluff)
B. mackenzie: a large switch-blade knife with a leather grasp (Jazzo, who got a vote from Chemeng(edited) AND from Fiberbabe (sorry FB I had it written down and missed it), and who voted for his own definition)
C. MACKENZIE is a heavy overcoat for cold/raw weather, used in Australia and other places south of the equator - analogous to the Mackintosh of Northern climes. (wofahulicodoc, who got votes from WO’N and I think Annastrophic. I agree with FB that saying “I am asea” has got to be a vote for C. And the Hogwash Master’s ruling always stands, right?)
D. mackenzie: explorer, adventurer -- someone who travels into little known regions (especially for some scientific purpose) (One vote from hev)
E. The tendency for daughters of celebrities to devolve into drug and alcohol addiction at the peak of her career. See also: tatum. (Fiberbabe sent this in. I am sending her a bill for a new keyboard. Kenya dark roast through the nose!)
F. Scottish slang for male genitalia (WO’N contributed this. Apparently it wasn’t upstanding enough to garner a vote.)
G. An applause meter (This is actually the correct definition, and was provided to me in a list of unusual words published by the Denver-Rocky Mountain News a couple of weeks back.. I have asked them repeatedly for a citation, without success, so if you want to fire me as Hogwash Master for putting up an unsupportable word, feel free to do so. It got a vote from dodyskin, but I THINK the vote was withdrawn and I am in my capacity as HM so ruling.)
H. Mackenzie - a device that facilitates downhole borehole location. Mackenzie, together with McGeorge, developed a method of determining the drift of a borehole away from the vertical at any point in its depth thus enabling its plan location to be established and plotted against depth. The method utilised a glass tube or bottle containing two gelatine filled compartments, in one of which a compass was suspended while a plumb bob swung in the other. The tube was lowered a given distance down the borehole and left while the gelatine set. The angle of the plumb bob, the depth down the borehole and the compass reading enabled the necessary calculations to be made. Although MacGeorge’s name is associated with the method itself, the device was known as a mackenzie as it was his company that constructed and marketed it and had its name stamped into the protective wooden cradle. This method has long since been replaced by more technological solutions. (This is the submission just as I got it from dxb. Fooled milum, and if I hadn’t known the correct answer I’d have voted for it myself, so I think that’s worth an extra half point. HM rules!)
I. A device for mechanically threading automated knitting machines, designed by E. W. MacKenzie during the industrial boom of the 1800s. (From Sparteye, who got one vote from Consuelo.)
J. A mackenzie (as you know) is: A hold from traditional freestyle (a.k.a. "Lancashire") wrestling. With the opponent facing away, the wrestler puts both arms underneath the opponent's, bends elbows, and places both hands on the back of the opponent's neck. Pressure is then applied by pushing down with hands and widening elbows, until the opponent submits. (Submitted by Shona, who picked up votes from Sparteye, dodyskin, and belMarduk. This was the only one to pick up three full votes)
K, anyone or anything that is hopelessly old-fashioned (from Consuelo. I expected this to draw at least one vote.)
L. mackenzie to incur a debt of honour or to apply for protection (from Dodyskin)
M. mackenzie - a jocular term for the faux-German spoken on TV shows such as Hogan's Heros, from mach und zie (tsuwm sent this in, and I wondered when I got it if he’d consciously or unconsciously picked up on my pun in the original hogwash posting. In addition to his own bluff he took in Wordwind and dxb.)
N. A Choctaw version of the English fox hunt. Not knowing the proper rules they dragged the fox around the village by rope tied to a horse. Named after Bobwhite Mackenzie, the half-breed who taught them how to play. (This came from milum. Luckily I had learned my lesson and didn’t have a big mouthful of coffee loaded on when I read it.)
O. Any telescopic umbrella. (Wordwind’s submission, which came in just before cutoff.)
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Yikes!®
Thanks, F'babe & TEd. In my attempt to be clever, I neglected to a[embolden]sea[/embolden].
Good on ya, wof. You got me. But it was a tough call. :)
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>I wondered when I got it if he’d consciously or unconsciously picked up on my pun...
now why would I be looking for word play in a post of your'n? (it could well have been unconsciously!)
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You might want to re-tally those scores, TEd... I voted for B also... You're welcome Jazz.
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i did not deserve any votes as my definition was a mean spirited jibe at the mackenzie clan, beneath me as a 'child/son of grace and/or strength' ( rough translation). the mackenzies have often been accused of being a subsidiary of the campbell clan having hidden beneath their armoured apron strings many years ago. was checking this out on a website that i am now unable to find, will post it (if you are interested in the in-fightings of scottish-irish clans centuries ago that is) when i come across it again. well done shona, it didn't quite convince me but i liked it a lot
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D. mackenzie: explorer, adventurer -- someone who travels into little known regions (especially for some scientific purpose) (One vote from hev)
Geez, TEd, you could at least give me credit for bluffing with my own answer... [rolleyes]
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I abstained too, since I hadn't the foggiest notion of why any one should be preferred over the rest. (Though if I had been forced to, I would have guessed A.) I did eliminate several based on the phraseology, starting with
C: don't use the word "climes" in a definition - climates, maybe
or E: devolve is a giveaway (did you mean delve?), likewise tatum
or M: ...now if it had read "machen Sie" instead...
or N: no way mackenzie comes from the Choctaw
but that still didn't leave any rational way to choose among the rest.
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but that still didn't leave any rational way to choose among the rest.That's where the vote for my definition went, TEd! Psssst! milum! I knew that was your definition even tho' it had been gelded.
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My, but I picked a bad time to go on holiday! well done shona, it didn't quite convince me but i liked it a lotCheers, dode . The quality of the competition was very good indeed, and I'm amazed to have done so well. Clearly skill rather than luck, though. [deadpan] It was the first association that came to mind. Worrying, really. A most excellent venture, TEd. Congratulations! [standing ovation][drinks all round] BTW, I've always known mackenzies as clapometers due to an ancient British TV program called Opportunity Knocks - a talent (meaning talentless) show where the winner was dictated by the level of applause of the audience. Was this program an import from the US, perchance?
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