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#77826 08/13/02 08:09 PM
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I studied adult beginner's violin from a Chinese woman who had earned her performance masters degree from Julliard.

She consistently sang: si do; never ti do.

At first I thought I was just misunderstanding her accent, but then I asked her about it (rude little thing that I am), and she was very clear: "Si Do."

Interesting, don't you think? Every voice class I've ever taken, we used ti do. So, I don't know where the division of schools of singing has occurred or why.


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well is it any wonder this discussion about music seem worse than discussions about grammer? we can't even agree on the names of the notes!

we definately need some wav files somewhere -- so we can hear-- the intonations.


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Do, a dear, female dear
Re, a drop of golden sun


No, no, no. It's:

Dough what I use to buy my beer
Ray, the guy that sells me beer
Me, the guy that drinks my beer
Far, a long way to get beer.
So, I think I'll have a beer,
La, I think I'll have a beer.
Tea, no thanks I'm drinking beer
And that brings us back to
(looks at empty beer glass)
D'oh!

From The Simpsons


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I just sang Loftan the Simpson's Beer Song. She likes it and will sing it to her solfege teacher this year--she'll be in year two of solfeggio.

In year one, she learned a cute little solfege challenge. I offer it here for you beginning musicians:

Sing, "I'm a Little Teapot" in solfeggio. What do you notice?


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no "tea"! hahaha!!

very fun!



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Yeah, etaoin! This is just the kind of lame joke that works for me everytime, juvenile sense of humor that I'm forever burdened with!

But it wouldn't work for the la-si-do camp, whoever they are. They'd need a song with no "sea" in it, I suppose.

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The scale was originally ut re mi fa sol la si ut. It's from the initial syllables of the lines of a chant that I have on CD. The tones for each of the syllables go up scale. All I can remember off hand is

Ut queant laxis
Resonare fibris
Miserere nobis
Famili tuorum


but that might be filled with errors. I'll check tonight and give y'all the straight skinny.


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And if you're a real sweetie, Faldage, you'll translate for us less-than-Latin-learneds, ok? It'll also be interesting to see whether there's wiggle room in that ti v. si choice...


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if you're a real sweetie, Faldage

That's one mighty big if there Dub' Dub. Well, just cuz it's you I'll make some effort at translation when I manage to find the CD that I have the original chant on. Or either they'll have a translation in the liner notes and you can have a good translation.


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Boy did *I screw it up:

UT queant laxis REsonare fibris
MIra gestorum
FAmuli tuorum,
SOLve polluti LAbii reatum, Sancte Ioannes.


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