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#74588 06/29/02 11:33 PM
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textiles, (cloth) are one of the oldest comodities traded. right up there with olive and other oils...

name for textiles, are often very old words..
Anu in the past has covered seersucker.. (but it was mentioned recently by me, so search for it!) is one with an interesting etymology. but there are others

Satin (just for you inselpeter!) from the spanish, setuni, which came from the arabic, zaituni, meaning of Zaitun, the medieval name of Quanzhou, China!
Satin was original a silk fabic, but now is often made from synthetics. sateen, is a fabic similar to satin, made from cotton


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Chintz-- from the hindu, chhint, (related to the sanscrit, chitra;spot, and to the IE base of *(s)kai-, bright.
this root is also found in OE hador, bright, and in the latin caelum, sky.

Chintz is a cotton cloth printed in bright colors with flowers or other designs, and is usually glazed.


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gingham come to english from the dutch (or maybe the french!) Du gingang, Fr guingan-- but is ultimately from the Malay, ginggang, striped!
it is a yarn dyed cloth, usually woven in stripes or checks, or plaids.


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serge moved into ME, from OFr, sarica, starting in latin as serica, silken garments, <sericus, silken, or literaly, of the Seres, an oriental people, and most likely from the original chinese word for silk se>

a stong twilled fabric with a noticiable diagonal rib, used for suits and coats..

silk is incredible strong, and was highly desired as an undergarment-- no, not that reason! usually, an arrow could not peirce it. so, while the arrow might go through the skin, it pulled the un peirced shirt with it..
this made it much easer to remove the arrow, (the shirt was twisted round the arrow shaft, and the cloth was pulled out.

this reduced internal damage, and once washed, the shirt was still good! it was more expensive than mail, and other metal armor, but it was very light weight, and cooler, and less restricting...


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Chintz-- from the hindu, chhint

Any connection with chintzy, as slang for cheap and shoddy?


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Keiva: using extortion as you did is cheap and shoddy.


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Chintz...and is usually glazed.

Fabric are now days treated with synthetic glazes. in times past, starch was the most common glaze. (any one familiar with starch fabric know, when over starch, the fabric can have a hard glossy finish.)

some starches, like oat starch will disolve in water, once and then resist disolving again.

cheap, lightweight fabic, was often glazed, like chintz, to make it feel more substainial, firmer. as the glaze washed/wore off, the substandard quality of the cloth was evident...
leading to chintzy, meaning of poor quality, and from there to cheap and shoddy

it just an other case of first impressions being wrong..

i though Keiva was an ok guy, but now, i realize he is chintzy.. sub standard, cheap and shoddy.
he used extortion to get back on the board after he was banned.






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returning to of-troy's subject

Nylon stockings are near and dear to any woman who had to live with the snags of silk. Silk stockings were used before, but they snagged very easily and made users very frustrated.

Because of the public-relations fanfare surrounding the debut of nylon stocking, there is no ambiguity concerning their origin. In late 1938 the Du Pont chemical company announced its new synthetic, nylon, "passing in strength and elasticity any previously known textile fibers." The hosiery industry welcomed relief from the periodic shortages of raw silk, but feared the effect of indestructible stockings. While the "miracle yarn" was displayed at the 1939 World's Fair, Women across America eagerly awaited the new nylon stockings.

DuPont shipped spools of the new yarn to selected mills, to be knit per Du Pont's specifications. The mills allotted nylon stocking to certain stores, on the promise that none would be sold before "Nylon Day", May 15, 1940. With Du Pont's advertising, hysteria built.

On May 15 the hysteria erupted. Newspapers reported that no consumer item in history ever caused such nationwide pandemonimum. Women queued up hours before the store doors opened. Hosiery deparments quickly ran out, and in many stores near riots broke out. By the end of the year 3 million dozen pairs had been sold -- and far more could have been sold had more been available.

Compared to silk, nylon stockings appeared virtually indestructible -- particularly since women treated the few pair they managed to buy with greater care. In very little time silk stockings were obsolete and nylon stocking became simply "nylons".

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Keiva: Now matter how you post, you cannot cnange the fact that you
used extortion to obtain re-instatement after being banned for starting
a flamewarand refusing to stop adding fuel to it. You are contemptible.


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Fascinating information about silk and the arrow, of troy.

I wonder at what point would there be enough force on an arrow that it could, finally, pierce silk?

Thanks for the information!
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