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#73238 06/17/02 02:41 AM
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...when you good people have come to your senses and can resume AWAD-talk, OK?

Thanks, and 'bye for now,

Geoff


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Until Keiva the Banned leaves this board permanently, there can be no peace here.
Keiva, go away. You are not welcome here.


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Gee, that wasn't our intention to humiliate ewe.
Unless.....are you saying that ewe are Keiva?

Keiva, go away. You are not welcome here.

Note to ewein: I did not start posting until after midnight my local time. YCLIU


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I feel that everyone here, except for Geoff and wordcrazy, has humiliated me.

You humiliated yourself the day you lied to the forum You-whine. Well Nancy, since you still use your handle ewein which is short for Elizabeth Weintraub I suspect that you are still intent on deceiving the board and you are, therefore, no better than your rat of a husband. You too deserve everything you get.


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when you good people have come to your senses...

Beloved Geoff,
When MW defined a gentleman they definitely had you in mind.

When they ask what a civilised person is, I will always remember you.


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You might feel humiliated. But no one can humilate you.

You are responsible not only for you actions, but for your feelings. Ask youself "why do i feel this way?" If you answer is to blame some one else, ask again, and again.

If you don't want to feel humiliated don't. If you think you have reason to take pride in your action here, take pride. Your feelings are yours to control, they are valid, and do not have be justifed to others. But they are your's you control them. not me, not anyone here. You can't blame us for how you feel. I can't make you feel shame or guilt, or humiliated. Ican't control you, your behavior or your feelings. Please don't try to blame me for how you feel.

If you think your action here have been underhanded, and have contributed to problems, ask you self Why did i act that way? What compelled me to lie? Why did I act in a way I can't take pride in? Was it that you were brow beaten? and to be honest, you must also ask yourself, why do i let myself be brow beaten? Why do i feel i have to do as others want?

If you can't answer these question, maybe you see someone who is trained to help people understand their own behaviors. There are groups, like AA, only they are for abused women, , and may companies offer free services. As a Professor of NURSING, you should be aware of the social services available at your University, at local hospitals and other places. Make use of them.

You seem to be a smart capable woman. Act like one.



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Most people who posted yesterday completely disregarded
my request like it didn't exist.


It didn't exist like you don't exist, Lizzie Weintraub. QED.

Many of them I had considered to be my friends.

Friends? You have friends? Only ones in your mind - and your quite ill husband.

That humiliated me. Period.

These Spectors must be blind. Read the words, Nancy!! You humiliate yourself with your lies and deceipt. Don't blame us for your shortcomings, of which there are plenty. For a university professor you sure aren't that bright are you? Kenny's influence must definitely be rubbing off on you if you are so blatantly stupid.


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Many of them I had considered to be my friends

You consider me your friend? or consuelo? or wordwind? or annastrophic? Who are these friends?
That humiliated me.

M-W10th Humilate:to reduce to a lower position in ones own eyes
I have no doubt you feel humiliated. i just don't see How i can be responsible for your feelings.

They are your feelings. You can feel happy, or sad, or humble or proud, what ever you chose. It is not psychological mumbo jumbo.

It is true, that your feelings are based things that happen to you.. but you still control how you chose to look at things. and you perspective, is important.

you sent me an PM and said that you know that i hate you.
You can not presume to know what i feel. Unless i tell you how i feel, you can only guess. I decide how i feel, and i decide who i share my feelings with. Maybe i hate you. maybe i don't. you don't know. Nor can you force me to change my feelings towards you, or even to let you know the nature. They are mine. i do not have to share them with you.

I asked for 1 day of peace yesterday
we have been asking for Keiva to leave here from months. not one person, but many people. we haven't gotten what we want either. Do our feeling count for anything? or just yours?


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Dear equalizer: You should be ashamed of your insulting remarks, particularly
those addressed to ewein, who has never made any offensive posts.
They give Keiva the chance to make more replies.
Stick to the short statement that he is unwelcome


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I would appreciate it if those who post would keep my personal life (first and last name, profession, etc.) out of the posts. Please delete that
information. Thank you. Nancy

No. Your appreciation is not appreciated. And you are not welcome, You whine.


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Your Profession, was first brought up and mentioned by your husband, aka KEIVA, AphonicRants, KeivaCarpal, etc..
Your husband has used his full name on this board in the past.
You just signed a public posting with your first/given name.
You have acknowledged you are married to KEIVA, so any concerns about this information being public, is moot.

I am not to blame for knowing these things about you. You or your husband elected to share them. If you would like to know more about me, feel free to use his Index and Search software. I posted the information, i am responsible for it being public.

If you did not want this information public, it should not have been posted.





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Dear equalizer: You are doing just what Keiva got banned for: adding fuel to the flame war.


#73254 06/18/02 02:35 AM
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Could someone please correct me if I am wrong? It seems to me that there is a fire-fighting technique that is sometimes employed when a particularly nasty fire is impossible to contain and/or put out. The technique consists of accelerating the burn so that nothing is left to feed the fire. What is the word for this technique, that is, if I am correct in my memory of this?


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Here it is just called a controlled burn.


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controlled burn

Or perhaps a back burn? when the firefighters light a fire in the path of the fire - contain that second fire - burn off a patch so that there is nothing left to burn there - then when the original fire comes along, it has nowhere to go, and dies out?

Let us go in peace to love and serve the board.

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