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I am guilty myself of saying liddle at times, but was very surprised to hear a friend say that her baby had already eaden (sounds like Eden), instead of eaten - it struck me as unusual, maybe because the first syllable is long and accented????
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her baby had already eaden, instead of eaten - it struck me as unusual
Not so unusual, since the second syllable is just the nasal [n] and easier to keep the preceding stop unvoiced against.
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I think the T in "eaten" is often not quite given its due. There's a lingustics way to describe that half a T that I hear in "eaten", isn't there? For me, it usually doesn't make itself into a D, either.
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After delivering four children well into adulthood, we still tend to say bis-ketti, as well as he/she gots. The latter makes perfect sense to small children, simply an over-generalization of the third-person-singular s. I've discovered too that most of my family has always pronounced trough with a final th-sound, like troth. It's not a word we use that often; we haven't kept pigs in years.
Saying ih-ul-ly for Italy is what's known as a glottal stop ( or gloh-ul, if you will). In many parts of the Northeast US you will hear someone ask for a boh-ul-a-beer.
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he/she gots. The latter makes perfect sense to small children, simply an over-generalization of the third-person-singular s
I've got
The 've is assimilated into the g of got, the sense that it is a past tense is lost, since it describes an on-going condition and the rule about s at the end of a third person singular verb takes over.
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>there *should be a word for this! Hurry up tsuwm, or there will be...
sorry, this looked like a food thread you know...
Jackie is right; this is baby talk, by extension: 1 a : the syntactically imperfect speech or phonetically modified forms used by small children learning to talk b : the consciously imperfect or altered speech used by adults in speaking to small children 2 : oversimplified speech or writing [MWCD]
caradea is also right; the original, obsolete sense of lallation is "Childish utterance". [OED]
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Jackie is right Oh, joy! Will wonders never cease! I'm gonna run 'n mark it on my calendar! And by the way, I say sandwich, mostly. Occasionally sanwich. But, samwich?! Shudder---that's as bad as Antartica.
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The practice of calling the parts of the fowl "drumstick" and "second joint" originated in Victorian England, to alleviate discomfort with the foul terms "leg" and "thigh".
We don't use "chickenbeast" to refer to poultry, rather its just a nonsense word suggesting a parodoxical creature that is somehow both chicken and beast. That is, both cowardly and ridiculous like a chicken and ferocious and wild like a beast. I think we were inspired by Monty Python and the Holy Grail, in which Sir Robin is said to have "nearly stood up to the dreaded Chicken of Bristol."
The funny part (to me at least) is that we have a baby talk term for chickenbeast: chickabeast.
As far as victorian propriety, didn't they have long, overhanging tablecloths to cover the legs of the dining table? Of course, pornography was a booming business in the victorian age.
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