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#6497 02/09/02 03:26 PM
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If my ice chest wasn't full of beer and I had some butter, I would put the butter in a pot with a lid and bury it in the clay, like they did in England in the Fourteenth Century.

Why? Why bury the butter? What does this do? I truly am lost here! [totally confused-e]


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To return to the original question, metathesis is transposition of sounds, usually adjacent ones (ask ~ aks, bird ~ brid, wasp ~ waps being three from Old English); spoonerism is transposition of initial consonants; and folk etymology is a mistaken belief that a word comes from a similar-sounding word or phrase: and this is an example of all three.

Butterfly seems such an ugly and inappropriate word for the dear little things. My favourite is the Welsh pili-pala.


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Butterfly seems such an ugly and inappropriate word...

Papillon captures some of their jumpy playfulness, too


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ask ~ aks

It is often pointed out in response to claims that MnE ax is just as correct as ask that both acsian and ascian were used in Old English. The implication is that the modern ask pronunciation came from one of the OE words, but I thought that the OE sc was pronounced sh. Is this not the case with ascian?


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Butterfly in Spanish is mariposa. Pron:mar-ee-poe-sah. In Chiapas, Mexico, at a place called Agua Azul, is a canyon upriver full of mariposas. The river is a very strong, muscular blue during the dry season. They say that the color comes from certain chemicals present in the bedrock (Stales?). Another beautiful blue associated with butterflies is the Blue Morpho butterfly that I had the pleasure of seeing in Costa Rica. It is at least as large as your hand and a gem-tone blue with black border. [getting the need-to-wander-again blues]


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Old English spelling was not perfect in representing phonemes. It is more accurate to say there was a SH phoneme in Old English, written SC, as in scip. But there might also occur the cluster SK. The only way of writing this was also SC.

In cases of ambiguity the modern reflex is a good guide. Since we say ask not ash, the OE ascian was probably pronounced that way.


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Consuelo

The colour of water bodies may be a product of dissolved salts and/or algal activity, but is more usually a function of (Bean - help me out here) the water's depth, turbidity, surrface conditions, the colour of the bed and the amount of water in the atmosphere above it (which has an impact on the colour of the sky). Frinstance, shallow tropical seas are a beautiful aqua because of all the white (often pure silica or calcium)sediments.

Famous examples of which I am aware are the unbelievably blue blue of the crater lake at Mount Gambier, South Australia and the candy pink of Pink Lake (and why's it called Pink Lake? - we are but simple folk!! near Esperance, Western Australia. Last time I heard, the Mt Gambier blue (good pic at http://www.mountgambiertourism.com.au/ was thought to be a function of elevated calcium content at certain times of the year. This may be the same explanation for your lake. The pink lake phenomenon (not restricted to the lake near Esperance I might add - they are quite common) is (I believe) due to a "bloom" of pink algae.

Other chemicals that could give a blue colouring to water would be copper or cobalt. In my experience however, copper rich waters are green. Either way, I wouldn't want to be swimming in the thing.

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Stales,
Agua Azul is a river that runs through the mountainous jungle near the southern border of Mexico and Guatemala. During the rainy season, the water is greenish, but during the dry times it is a most wonderous color blue. I believe it originates in the limestone beds of the Yucatán. [so sue me if I'm wrong-e] I know that there are some other rivers in that general area that are dangerous to swim in because of chemicals in the water that are toxic to humans. But not here.

http://www.thresholds.net/aguazul/aguazul.htm

post edit Yes! The color of your Blue Lake is the color of Agua Azul when at it's finest!

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The Indonesian for butterfly is kupu-kupu. Then there's kupu-kupu malam, literally night butterfly, but it doesn't mean moth. It's a euphemism for prostitute.

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bingley notes: The Indonesian for butterfly is kupu-kupu.

and in another thread, re endearment:
Just add ku (my) to the end of the person's name. So, Candiku.

As a wild speculation, is there any connection between these, bing? Any connection between "butterfly" and "dear thing"?



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