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#53535 01/23/02 10:40 PM
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place or things that always take a special article

When listening to Canadian newscasts, the use of "hospital" without "the" always sounds odd to me. The accident victim was taken to hospital - where I would be inclined to say, taken to the hospital. What's the usage in other places? Anyone? Is one more correct or common than the other? Thanks.

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All three English Québec universities go by their proper names when being referred to: McGill, Concordia, Bishops.

We will generally say, "I go to McGill," and rarely add the word university afterwords.

All the French university names are preceded by "the university of..."

Hospital names start with the...the Royal Vic., the Mtl General, the Jewish General EXCEPT those hospitals that are named after saints (eg. Sainte Justine)


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Hospital, without the article, is more common here.

You mean there are some left? Don't tell the government ...



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how could I have forgotten the plethora?

Keiva, do you even know what a plethora is? Work with me here.


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Or name it Mjöllnir so it'll come when you call it.

I think you have to be a God for that to work.


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do you even know what a plethora is?

Oooh, ooh, ooooh! I know, I know!

It's an ancient Greek stringed instrument tuned to Pythagorean thirds and plucked with a crane's feather.


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how could I have forgotten the plethora?
Keiva, do you even know what a plethora is? Work with me here.

No, El Guapo. I don't know what a plethora is. [straight-line -e ]



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In French, Cairo is Le Caire. And, like Le Havre, if a preposition is used before it, it combines with the article; e.g., Il est allé au Havre, elle est venue du Caire. I don't know what Dutch does with The Hague (den Haag, I think, in Dutch).


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On the subject of universities and hospitals, my own alma mater is Johns Hopkins University. There is also Johns Hopkins Hospital, which is one of the 3 top hospitals in the USA. They were named for Johns Hopkins, a Quaker merchant and moneybags who died in 1870 with no children, leaving an estate of $7 million to found a university and a hospital, the largest charitable bequest in US history at the time (worth in today's money over $250 mil). He was named for John the Baptist and John the Evangelist, hence the name Johns, not John. In polite and/or educated circles in Maryland, it is axiomatic that whoever refers to John Hopkins U or Hosp shows him/herself to be an ignoramus. Notwithstanding, last Sunday we drove to our son's house near D.C. and on the way passed the intersection of Rt. 29 and Johns Hopkins Road, so identified by a prominent sign over the intersection. On the way home, I happened to notice that the sign at the same intersection identified it as John Hopkins Road. Apparently the sign facing the northbound lane is not the same as the one on the southbound side, and wrong at that.


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