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#51955 01/06/02 02:25 PM
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but as Angel pointed out.. every one is creative-- even if they only express it in creating a name.

Angel pointed this out in a PM tho! My mother always said, "If you can do nothing else creative in your life, you can create a name!" I was her first born, and was given the name "Kimber". My brother, on the other hand, is a Junior addition of my dad!

By the way, while we are on names, my brother has always been referred to by the family and in school as "Butch". Now as an adult and with an ex-wife who swears she couldn't pronounce Butch.....[whiter]plllllllthhh[/whiter] he is now known in the business world as "Ralph". This creates many problems, when one set of friends meets another set and they call him by two different names.


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Short forms of names are also interesting and numerous, and some are a bit improbable ... Gus for Constantinos

??? I'd always thought Gus was a short form of Augustus and of Gustavus (the latter sometimes alternatively shortened to "Stav").

Query: what name has the most numerous short-forms in common use? Perhaps Elizabeth would have some ideas for us?

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other forms of John include Sean (there is no j in irish--and its easy to see how the french Jean became Sean.) in scots, it went to Ian. Joan (irish, again) became Soibhan, (she vawn). it went to Ivan in some russian languages.

for alexandria, there is Alex, alexis, and sandy and lexy..

and i don't know which name forms the most nick names, but i'd vote for margaret
Marge
Margy
Meg
Maggy

Peg
Peggy
Peggeen, (as in dickens)
as well as informal ,Mags, and Mar.



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Alexander is a root of many names. In Scotland Sandy (for boys) is popular. There seem to be female Sashas around but I always think of it as a boy's name.

Alexander/Alexandra – Short forms, variants and pet names
ALEXANDER (m) From the Greek name Alexandros, which meant "defending men" from Greek alexein "to defend, help" and aner "man" (genitive andros). Alexander the Great, King of Macedon, is the most famous bearer of this name. In the 4th century BC he built a huge empire out of Greece, Egypt, Persia, and parts of India. This was also the name of emperors of Russia, kings of Scotland and Yugoslavia, and eight popes.
ALASDAIR, ALASTAR, ALEC, ALECHJO, ALASDAIR, ALASTAR, ALEC, ALEJANDRA, ALEJANDRO, ALEKSANDER, ALEKSANDR, ALEKSANDRA, ALEKSANDRINA ALEKSANTERI,ALEKSI, ALESSANDRA, ALESSANDRO, ALEX, ALEXA, ALEXANDR, ALEXANDRA, ALEXANDRE, ALEXANDREA, ALEXANDRIA, ALEXANDROS, ALEXANDRU, ALISTAIR, ALISTER, ALIX, ALYX, ISKENDER, LEX, LEXA, LEXI, LEXIE, LEXINE, LEXY, MALANDRA, OLEK, OLEKSANDER, SACHA, SANDIE, SÁNDOR, SANDRA, SANDRINE, SANDRO, SANDY, SASCHA, SASHA, SENDER, XANDER, XANDRA, ZANDER, ZANDRA,
Alexius is another name but some short forms overlap :
ALEXIUS (m) "helper" or "defender" from the Greek name Alexios which derived from alexein "to defend, help". A czar of Russia has borne this name. ALEJO, ALEKSEI, ALESSIA, ALESSIO, ALESSA, ALEXA, ALEXEI, ALEXIA, ALEXINA, ALEXIS, ALEXUS, LEXA, LEXIA, LEXUS
Researched from:
http://www.behindthename.com



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Does anyone know if this occurs in any other language but English. And does anybody know, offhand, how it came to be so?

I can be corrected here but I think that is is primarily a function of US English. We don't really use the boys names that have been mentioned in previous posts in everyday Br English - John, Peter etc. Terms like "Dear John" letter were originally a US term (I think). Perhaps it derives from the use of terms like "John Doe" - another term that we don't use.

Maybe RhubarbC or Maverick disagrees?

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I had a friend who grew up in Britain who said that instead of John Doe, the Brits used Fred (or is it Joe?) Bloggs, which I think has a much more pleasing sound. We named one of our experimental set-ups "Mr. Bloggs" (to keep him separate from "Big Bertha", rather than calling them "the little one" and "the big one").


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which I think has a much more pleasing sound

In the spirit of non-combativeness that wishes to pervade itself about the board, I'll refrain from saying that, rather than soundng pleasant, Bloggs sounds like a glomule of some rather disgusting matter has been unceremoniously deposited on my work bench.

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OK, not pleasing then, interesting. The double-g also makes it interesting to look at. But maybe just because it's different from (to, than) John Doe or Joe Blow, which is what I'm used to.

I agree that it does sound a bit like a gob of something ejected during a sneeze.


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Oh dear. Now you've done it; you've gone and agreed with Faldage. How is he going to continue to argue? [waiting-in-complete-faith-that-F-will-be-able-to-do-so emoticon]


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I quite agree with you, my dear Bean. Doe is the sound of a mother deer basking in the sylvan paradise with her fawns gamboling about her. Bloggs is, as you say


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