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Nobody said a word about the "struffy" pronunciation.


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Faldage, how do those "authorities" suggest that perihelion should be pronounced?


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Keiva has a point with his antepenult comment. Ornithotrophe (nor ornithotrophy for that matter) is neither in the OED nor is it a -strophe word and therefore should not be thought of as an exception to the antepenult rule


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Does epistrophe require that the repetition be identical, or may it be merely parallel? That is, would the folloing be an example of epistrophe, and if not, what is the name for the rhetorical device used?

If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?


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>Ornithotrophe is neither in the OED....

but you are wrong, oh strophic one. it is listed under the
prefix ornitho-

or"nithotrophe nonce-wd., a place to which birds are attracted by food, so as to come under observation.
1826 Dovaston in Bewick's Brit. Birds (ed. 6) I. Pref. 5, I examined+no less than twenty three sorts of birds in and about my Ornithotrophe, as I humourously denominate it.


so it was invented by Mr. Dovaston for his bird book and prolly never used again. and as far as it not being a -strophe word, there you have me, as I originally looked for -trophe (or even trophy!) words. but was then swayed by the struffy (or was it scruffy) comments of dr. bill.


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The one got me was aphelion, good old Greek word, from ap[o] away from and helios sun. Nice and easy to pronounce, right? [ap-HEEL-yun] Well, imagine my surprise when I hear no less than Block and Bird from Earth and Sky pronounce it [uh-FEEL-yun]. So I look it up in the dictionary and they have it wrong, too, [uh-FEEL-yun], just like Block and Bird.

Well, Harrumphİ!

I guess I'm fighting an uh-fill battle.


Not from this corner of the ring, you're not. If the dictionaries are showing an "aff" pronunciation for aphelion, they've just plain got it wrong. After all, if for no other reason, the fact that its opposite, perihelion, cannot be pronounced similarly should indicate the correct pronunciation. It may, of course, simply be that the OED and all the others have simply chosen to go with the flow.



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"uh-FEEL-yun" ... I guess I'm fighting an uh-fill battle.

Uh Feel yur pain, faldage.
(Voice from wings: OFEELia! Get thee to a nunnery!)

I agree with you completely; you need not bear such craPaloniusly.




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"Since you ask, Dr. Bill, t'aint nuttin' wrong with a schwa. Thoe who make apoint of not
using it tend to come across as pretentiously pedantic. "

What I don't like about the "schwa" is that it is often used in place of the printed vowel, out of laziness in speaking, in a way that obscures etymology.

The is an old and honorable dictum that two wrongs don't make a right. In language, however, a thousand wrongs do make a right, regrettably.

I admire the pedants more than the slobs.


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