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#51279 12/31/01 06:20 PM
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"epistrophe (i-PIS-truh-fee) noun" I find this pronunciation unappealing. In the first place, I don't know what a "struffy" is, and piss has nothing to do with it either.

I like "http://humanities.uchicago.edu/forms_unrest/webster.form.html" pronunciation much better.

Epistrophe (Page: 503)

E*pis"tro*phe (?), n. [L., from Gr. a turning toward, return, fr. to turn toward; upon, to + to
turn.] (Rhet.) A figure in which successive clauses end with the same word or affirmation; e. g.,
Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I." 2 Cor. xi. 22.

How about a vote on it?


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almost everyone puts the emPHAsis on the second sylLAble, but as always I like to hear it said:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?epistr01.wav=epistrophe


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Is a Vit-amin a Vita-min? Indeed, it is. Is a tomayto a tomato? Indeed, it is. One man's emphasis is another man's native accent, as familiar and sweet as his native land, wwh. [Trusting you are back up to speed.]


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Dear tsuwm: I can't hear the online pronunciation at all well. Where do you stand on the "struffy" part?
It sounds like laziness to me. I despise schwas etc. which fail to give useful clue to spelling.


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dear bill, the AHD (as at bartleby.com), for one, is very consistent with the 'strophe' words, putting the accent on the second syllable:
a NAS tro phe
an TIS tro phe
a POS tro phe
ca TAS tro phe

hence
e PIS tro phe
or NITH o tro phe :)
pe RIS tro phe

but
SYS tro phe
and
STRO phe
8)

p.s. - where there is an adj. form the major accent almost invariably changes to the penultimate syllable; e.g., cata STROPH ic

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p.s. - where there is an adj. form the major accent almost invariably changes to the penultimate syllable; e.g., cata STROPH ic

or

a na STROPH ic [ahem]


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[ahem]

there *are still some things in this world that a person can depend on.



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the AHD is very consistent with the 'strophe' words, putting the accent on the second syllable [examples]; but SYS tro phe

Could the rule that the antepenultimate syllable [if there is one] is accented, in which case "systrophe" would not be an exception? Among the words tsuwm cites, only or NITH o tro phe would be an exception -- but is that the correct pronunciation of that word? For that matter, is there any such word? I am unable to find it.



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I think we could all do with some orthoepy , which, by the way, I do not know how to pronounce.

Did anyone else notice, in today's WAD, that the palindromic URL leads to a page with the definition of a palindrome? Anu is just the cleverest thing I ever saw! [beaming smile e]


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The one got me was aphelion, good old Greek word, from ap[o] away from and helios sun. Nice and easy to pronounce, right? [ap-HEEL-yun] Well, imagine my surprise when I hear no less than Block and Bird from Earth and Sky pronounce it [uh-FEEL-yun]. So I look it up in the dictionary and they have it wrong, too, [uh-FEEL-yun], just like Block and Bird.

Well, Harrumphİ!

I guess I'm fighting an uh-fill battle.


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