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Dear WW: I had wrong impression. But as a jest, you could teach them some of the campaign ditties, like the one aimed at Grover Cleveland, if I remember right. "Ma, Ma, where's my Pa? Gone to the White House! Ha Ha Ha!" However the allegation appears to have been false. The candidate who used it was defeated.
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I teach a rhythmic chant of the United States presidents each year to second grade children as part of a big patriotic program we perform in March.Are you sure it shouldn't be "progrom"? 
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they just started to teach about the irish potato famine...7 years ago. There was a strong anglophile group involved in education, and most irish went to parachial (RC) schools.. but since the curriculum was for the state.. and the RC schools used the same books.. that little bit of history simply got recorded as " a record number of irish immigrated to US starting in 1848 and for the next 20 years.." with never a mention of why.. or what was happening in ireland at the time..
This sounds similar to the way in which the current US "war on terrorism" manages to avoid mentioning awkward details like NORAID, and the fact that US money has kept the IRA alive for decades.
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... and they still teach that Columbus *discovered America... We're supposed to stay away from politics here... that's reserved for state sponsored public institutions... 
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... and they still teach that Columbus *discovered America...
Nonsense. That was Slartibartfast. And he didn't discover America, he helped to create it, didn't he? Although I do understand that his speciality was fjords. Understandable, really. Continents are such impersonal things, aren't they?
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...and they never did tell me what they fed the Irish potatoe to keep it from starving.
Continents are such impersonal things, aren't they? Yeh, all that conquering and the great divide still remains.
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Dud-Dub said, "I teach a rhythmic chant of the United States presidents each year to second grade children as part of a big patriotic program we perform in March." CK said, "Are you sure it shouldn't be "progrom"? CK, what is a "progrom"?
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I've deleted what I wrote Sorry; I think there could be a misreading of what I intended. Sometimes words get in the way of one's intended meaning. Please forgive the deletion.
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maybe Jazzo can give us some info..
Well, I can say I was very surprised when you said conflict was glazed over in NY. We covered everything. Perhaps my school was very liberal about what could be taught. I've thought about that quite a bit recently. It's apparently one of the most conservative parts in the US outside the Bible Belt, but I know we talked about evolution extensively in both my Earth Science and Biology classes, no mention of creation. But you want to know about history.
Let's see. In AP English last year we had a detailed account of British History. Conflicts: Thomas A'Becket, Norman Conquest, War of the Roses, Bloody Mary, Plague, Potato Famine, Imperialism, Protestant/Catholic arguments. We The Plague, A Doll's House and Heart of Darkness. For group reports we had to read either 1984, Lord of the Flies, Hard Times, Pride and Prejudice, Jane Eyre, or Brave New World.
The year before that I had American History and American Literature. I don't know of anything we didn't cover. We watched The Crucible, 1776 and Glory and clips of Amistad and Saving Private Ryan. We also watched a series called Eyes on the Prize about Civil Rights in the 60s. We discussed the controversial issues like Vietnam, Sacco and Vanzeti [sp?], McCarthyism Japanese-American Concentration Camps and of course Slavery and Reconstruction. As far as I know is was all very objective and two-sided. The summer before the class we had to read The Scarlet Letter, The Jungle and Uncle Tom's Cabin and we had to watch The Front.
Sophomore year I took a world history course that went up to the Renaissance. I can't remember too much specific that would have been controversial, but I don't recall discussing slavery in Greece or gladiator battles in Rome. The teacher was a bit of a kook though.
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The teacher was a bit of a kook though.In my humble opinion, based on personal experience, Them's the best kind!
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