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#47358 11/25/01 02:54 AM
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And every morning the brewer hops out of bed!

Which reminds me of another term for intoxification, all hopped-up.


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And, if hopped up, you're juiced-up, and, if too juiced up, you're messed up.

The morning after? Hangover. We could recall terms for that as a tangent along with accompanying terms such as the French bois à la gorge...


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Talkin' straight off the top o' me head (or hypothesising, as I would say in my professional capacity) these two words are just transliterations of a particular English regional dialect "yill" being "ale" - especially if there is an elision with a precending word (e.g., "the ale - -" might well come put as "th' yill --") and "caup" for cup.
(Later edit) "yill" would almost certainly be prounounced, "yeal"
Where abouts it would come from, I'm not sure - could be Geordie, at a guess. (i.e., Newcastle-on-Tyne, North-East England - strong Scottish influence on speech and culture.)


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GallantTed, I loved Mr. Heaney's poems. Concise, yet telling. I, too, trailed around the farm yapping uselessly; but I've never quite figured out what use I have become instead, as he did. Thank you for posting them.


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Perhaps some board member would like to know the pronunciation, of "Uisce beatha" which I had to look up
Several sites gave it as "ish keh baha".


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I was feeling bemused, so I looked it up to understand better how I was feeling. Surprise, surprise! One of the definitions from some lexicon in Lexiconland had a definition of bemused as being intoxicated.

This one I like.

Bemused, but not bemused, you figure out which,
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I've just read several of your posts tonight, Wordwind, and if I didn't know better, I might say that you seem to have alcohol on the brain...(oh, ha ha, laughing at my own joke; bad, Jackie, bad!)


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Sober as a judge, Jackie. I'd say many of us have had alcohol on the brain. And what's curious, from reading these various posts, several have admitted to drinking not at all or rarely, yet the fuzzle and fuzzled threads keep on kicking. The terms amuse me, bemuse me at times, but I, too, rarely tip the cup, although the words for doing it one time too many are fun to consider.

Samuel Johnson once defended street people who had been criticized for their drinking habits. I wish I could quote him (where's a Boswell when you need him?), but essentially Johnson was saying that these people had such misery in their lives, why take away their often chosen source of comfort.

Heh, Jackie, you and I have taken a few tips at the word keg a few weeks ago. That was enjoyable. Hic*.

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(still licking my wounds over having been pffffft'd) There, there, Dear--I always admire a gracious loser! [scampering hastily out of reach e]






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Something else from M. Byrne, who is now staggering over the boards:

"zythum n. -- beer in ancient Egypt."

Did they make in out of papyrus?



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