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#47277 11/09/01 04:04 PM
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The "Omegatist" thread has just been officially Talibanned by the arbiters of "good breeding". Personally I think its . But my breeding is suspect.


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...banned by the arbiters of "good breeding"

When a thread gets too long it is especially vexing to flatliners, particularly to flatliners who are paying for connect time as the amount of time spent waiting for the thread to load becomes too great for the value of the thread, a questionable matter in the case of that thread anyway. It is a simple matter of good manners to avoid posting to such a thread. The perhaps arbitrary (but not unreasonable) limit of one hundred posts has been suggested. That thread exceeded that limit yesterday at 09:02:27 board time. tsuwm opted out of the thread on the next post.


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I have to confess I do not know what "flatlining" means, and so have no idea how long post inconveniences them. Certainly I do not wish to offend anybody.


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I do not know what "flatlining" means

The two methods of viewing posts are known as Threaded Mode and Flat Mode. Proponents of these modes are known jocularly as threadnodists and flatliners respectively. In Threaded Mode the Subject Lines of the individual posts are shown in an arrangement that reflects the logical order of the posts, that is, with a given post beneath and indented to the right of the post to which it is a response, or, at least, the post owning the Response Icon that was clicked to enable the response. In Flat Mode, all the posts are visible and are arranged in strictly chronological order. The advantages of Threaded Mode are that the individual posts load somewhat faster and it is easy to tell to what post a given post is responding to without counting on the somewhat lax attitude towards changing Subject Lines. The advantages of the Flat Mode are that a large number of posts will load quicker and it is easier to tell what the chronological order is. Confusion can result when a flatliner is responding to two posts which are chronologically close to each other but may be very far apart from the threadnodists point of view, such as when someone responds to an early post and someone else responds to a recent post and a flatliner, seeing the two posts right next to each other alludes to something in each post. On the other hand a flatliner can be confused when a threadnodist responds to an early post without clearly indicating what is being responded to and the flatliner sees it on a different page.


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The very long threads become an annoyance to flatliners because they start to take a prohibitively long amonut of time to load. I haven't done any great studies but I suspect that this might be alleviated by having fewer posts per page. This is settable and defaults to 20. I suspect that tsuwm has his set at 100 since he complained about the Omegatist thread going to page two. Or was it 50 because he complained about its going past page two? He may find it beneficial to cut that number down a little.

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I don't want to offend anyone either. And I'm not sure I understand what this "flat liners" business is all about. (I thought it was the horizontal signal on a heart monitor signifying death. I saw the movie with Kiefer Sutherland and Julie Roberts.) Anyway, I'm sure there are people much better qualified than I am to judge "good breeding", but I do know something about good manners. And, in my book, it is not good manners to belittle a whole class of harmless posters by saying anyone who posts anything on a particular thread is lacking in "good breeding". Telling people where they should or should not post is like telling them what they should think. I don't want to call this "snobbery" because I don't know the personalities involved. But this sort of 'hoier than thou' intimidation is not like to work. At least, it doesn't work on me.


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Telling people where they should or should not post is like telling them what they should think.

You can post where you want and when you want, but it is likely to be ignored by people who deem reading it more expensive than it's worth.


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especially now, when the whole object seems to be vieing to have the last word..

i did of course, as did tsuwm-- we each put in our last word, and don't bother with the thread any more!

it takes way to long to open, only to find a bunch of people acting like 2 years olds saying me, its my turn -- no its my turn--no its my turn.. no me, me, me, me!


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You can post where you want and when you want
Thank you for that assurance, Faldage. I understand that your issue is "flat lining" so my comments obviously don't apply to you. But the mullahs of "good breeding" may be contributing to the popularity, and thus the length, of this thread themselves. By threatening never to return to the "Omegatist" thread, they are creating a safe haven for many who are hoping they will keep their word. (BTW I have gone back a bit and I see that the recent record for a thread is "brick outhouse bertha" which attracted 899 visitors in a single month. A lot of people had a lot of harmless fun with that it seems. Where were the Talibanners to protect our well-bred posters then?)




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We are all taliban here.

And some of us even know what that means.


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We are all taliban here.
Scary thought. (Just kidding.) Thank you for taking the time to explain your issue. I see the issue is number of posts, not the number of visits. Since there seems to be some kind of concensus that more than 100 posts is too many, I am sure well-mannered people will elect not to post there anymore. Myself included. Its a shame this issue became tangled up with unrelated complaints about "good breeding".



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