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#41137 09/08/01 03:49 PM
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The Internet has many sites using the word "jugular" in senses quite remote from the
dictionary definition. I could not understand the discussion. See if you can
Here is one sample:

When the D gets a turnover and the they knows to 'fast break' , this is
conceptual. DoG's call for this is jugular, which told the players on the
field the following things: the other team is bummin' because of the
turnover, the other team has a weak D in since this was their O originally,
your own team is weak on O so score fast, scoring fast will break the other
team's heart.

http://www.umich.edu/~ultimate/Learning/concept1.html




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bill, there is a team-sport involving the frisbee™, called Ultimate Frisbee. evidently someone has written a series of articles on team play concepts titled "Conceptual Ultimate". I wouldn't get too hung up on their Jargon, they may be trying to compete with the likes of cricket or 43-man squamish.


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Surely in the example you quote, Bill, the general meaning is something like:

"The opposing team are defensively weak and mentally vulnerable; they are therefore suceptible to a lightning strike - we shall code this as a Jugular move"

- in other words, a quick knockout blow, as is a severed jugular?

but what do I know about sports [mumble-mumble]


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Dear Mav: I too am a sports ignoramus, but I was a bit surprised by the jock style prose with pretentious and garbled phrases about the strategy of what tsuwm calls a form of Frisbee




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Dr Bill,

The material you located is a strategic proposal by an Ultimate Frisbee player. Ultimate Frisbee is a team sport incorporating aspects of several sports, and can be most succinctly described as football with a Frisbee and the traveling rules of basketball.

The writer of that Ultimate Frisbee discussion was posing a change in strategy from a list of specific situational plays (what he calls developmental Ultimate Frisbee) -- that is, if such-and-such is happening in the game, player 1 will do X, player 2 will do Y and player Z will do 3 -- to a looser response to situations (what he calls conceptual Ultimate Frisbee). In the latter case, he envisions the players on the field knowing the general strategy appropriate to a general situation, and reacting to fulfill that strategy by improvising rather than running a pre-set play.

In illustrating this proposal, our author, MoonEE, uses the example of what should happen during a turnover. Instead of moving to a series of set plays, MoonEE says, conceptual Ultimate Frisbee should have the players knowing that the goal is to score ASAP, to best take advantage of the fact that, caught in a turnover situation, the opponent's team is currently fielding its stronger offensive players rather than its stronger defensive players. What he is proposing is, in a loose analogy to basketball terms, that the team should go for the fastbreak basket without worrying about setting up the half-court offensive set (that's not quite it, but).

Does it make sense to you now?



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