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"They are starting to believe their own PR/hype." - to what, a Vail?
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Then perhaps it is Mythovania?
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I reckon the great majority of people have excellent inbuilt detectors to guard against the likes of those who believe their own bullshit.
I also find a philosophical point in this. Y'ever noticed that there comes a time in the history of many individuals and organisations when they start to believe their own bullshit? Seems to me that this usually occurs just before their whole deck of cards collapses. "Pride comes before a fall" perhaps? (Or is translated from an ancient African saying referring to the arrival of a group of lions in late winter?)
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"Pride comes before a fall" ... a group of lions in late winter
I know y'all Antipodeans got summer and winter backwards but I din't know ya left spring and fall where they belong!
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I thought we had the "Sorry" talk a long time ago, Max. I recently saw some footage of Mr Howard's reasoning for not saying sorry and it was decidedly weak; something like this (and I paraphrase):
'I don't feel it is necessary for me to apologize for some acts with which I was not involved. My parents raised me to take responsibility when I did something wrong, but I did nothing wrong - so I don't feel the need to apologize.'
What repugnant words - they smell of distrust. He tried to distance himself from the affair, yet it was HIS parents generation that allowed the government to continue their "White Australia" goals.
If I find someone lying at the side of the road, then feeling sorrow and saying you're sorry for their situation isn't admitting personal wrong doing. It is not apologizing for somthing you did, but that it happend at all. Mr Howard, I am sorry for you.
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He's a West Islander, after all, a land where a man can get elected Prime Minister....If we all pronounced judgements on each other based on the idiocy of our national leaders, I would be forced to hate all the US'ns on the Board. And clearly I don't. So take it easy, folks! 
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I'm sure stales and myself (West Australian parents) can come to terms with Max's light-hearted fun. After all, many Australians would agree that Howard showed himself to be childish rather than stand up for any political agenda. Those who agree with Howard, and have rallied against reparations for Australia's indigenous people are the kind of close-minded bigots you won't find round here anyway.
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