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As a serious aside from my recent post in the Couplet of Questions thread; there is a German saying:
Bier nach Wein, das geht fein;
Wein nach Bier, das geht schwer.
Beer after wine, that's just fine,
Wine after beer; no bloody fear!
as a loose translation. Observations on the truth or otherwise of this homily? And what would be the biological processes involved that would make the difference?
Are there similar sayings the truth of which are to be empirically determined by the adventurous amongst us?
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Umm, where you hear that German saying, Rod? With your translation, it leaves me entirely flummoxed. I know one and it demands the opposite order:
Bier auf Wein, das lass' sein,
Wein auf Bier, das rat' ich dir.
roughly:
"Beer on (top of) Wine: leave it be;
Wine on Beer; this I advise you."
I've also heard many variations though. One such follows. It seems as long as they rhyme then no one really minds.
Wein auf Bier, das rat' ich dir;
Bier auf Wein ist auch ganz fein.
The only English one I know is:
Beer before liquor; never sicker.
Liquor before beer; in the clear.
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BY, I learnt the "Bier nach Wein" saying long ago when I was living in Mainz. I learnt it as "nach"=after, but you could substitute "vor"=before to match yourse. I hadn't heard the English equivalent. But in either order, I'm not sure of the validity.
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That's the way I heard it, too.
From some concentrated experience back in my Navy days I remember that there were some who could drink beer all night long and barely show it; give them one shot of hard stuff and they were out like a light. Others were just the opposite, handling hard stuff with no problem but conking out on a single beer. If I drank hard stuff I'd start out slow and speed up as the night wore on but on beer I'd start out fast and slow down. I suspect that it is all a matter of individual differences.
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I suspect that it is all a matter of individual differences.
I read an article once re. the old wives' (wife's) tale. It too confirmed that there was no basis for believing that drinking either one way or the other would make a difference.
If I drank hard stuff I'd start out slow and speed up as the night wore on but on beer I'd start out fast and slow down.
Yeah, that sounds familiar!
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Which brings us to the infamous boilermaker...whiskey in beer, or a shot-and-a-beer. I used to know the coinage of this term, but offhand it escapes me. Does anyone have the etymology handy?
By the way, a synonym for mixing anything, for me, was usually winding-up-on-the-floor. 
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Concerning alcoholic intake :
NEVER mix the grape and the grain.
So wine followed by brandy/cognac is fine.
But never grape-based followed by grain-based beverages.
Or vice-versa!
And a B-Complex, and a large glass of water with two aspirin or Tylenol before bed helps a lot!
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Now this is an interesting thread, to which I feel I can contribute from a basis of some expertise  The English rhyme on which I was brought up states: Beer befor Wine, you will feel fine; Wine before Beer, you will feel queer. (in the sickly sense, rather than any more modern meaning, of course.)From an empirical point of view, I have done both, and have felt either fine or queer, without regard to which prder I drank in. I have also noticed that mixing alcoholic beverages of any sort has a more or less deleterious effect on one - even drinking different sorts of beer in one session. Drinking Ale then going on to Lager always has a bed effect on me, compared with drinking a similar quantity of either without mixing. BTW, Whit, to me, a "boilermaker's" is a mixture of bitter and stout - so called beause it was favoured in North East England shipbuilding communities, particularly by the men who made the boilers for ships engines - a hot and heavy job where much dehydration took place, necessitating frequent topping up of the body's cooling system. (that was their excuse!) To put whiskey into beer is to spoil both. However, there are some ways of consuming alternate types of alcohol that really seem to work. Danish snapps (especially if you can get hold of the Jubilaeum snapps, which is a year old) is excellent if followed by quarter-litres of strong Danish Lager - Carlsberg "Elephant" is probably the best, but there are other that will do the job. I have sat until the early hours, consuming this mixture and putting the world to rights with my Viking friends without a headache or other ill-effects the next day. Skol!!! Happy days, all of you
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I heard this as, Bier auf Wein, lass das sein; Wein auf Bier geht nicht hier. Interesting that it takes so many different forms; English proverbs or sayings don't seem to have so many variations. Maybe we can think of some English ones that do have various forms.
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<Drinking Ale then going on to Lager always has a bed effect on me>
Do tell, Rhuby!
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Sorry - I just can't stop myself from boasting  - it's a very bed habit of mine. When I write a load of tripe-o Please be kind, and call it "typo!"  (This rhyming stuff is addictive to one brought up on English Pantomime!)
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We used to say in college:
liquor then beer, never fear
beer then liquor, never sicker
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And to quote the venerable Dot Parker:
Candy is dandy,
But liquor is quicker.
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And to quote the venerable Dot Parker:
Candy is dandy,
But liquor is quickerbut generally attributed to Ogden Nash. Max, if you are listening, the following are interesting sites: http://www.westegg.com/nash/and http://www.aphorismsgalore.com/Rod
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but generally attributed to Ogden Nash.
Oops! Guess I got that mixed up with "Men never make passes at girls who wear glasses." Thanks for the gentle correction there, rodward.
You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think.
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generally attributed to Ogden Nash.
And James Thurber stole the catbird seat from Red Barber (who paid good money for it) with barely the hint of acknowledgement.
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