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Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Topic Options #34969 - 07/08/01 02:40 AM Max Quordlepleen Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/12/00 Posts: 3409 Top #34970 - 07/08/01 01:24 PM Re: Shelley wwh Carpal Tunnel Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 13858 Dear Max: I took a look at Shelley's bio in encyclopedia. He was expelled from Oxford at the end of one year because of a publication "The Necessity of Atheism". I wonder how the ideas so shocking then would sound today P.S. Does his middle name "Bysshe" rhyme with "fish"?. Top #34971 - 07/08/01 02:05 PM Re: Shelley Jazzoctopus old hand Registered: 07/03/00 Posts: 1094 Loc: Cincinnati & Loveland, Ohio, U... I wonder how the ideas so shocking then would sound today Well, in the US at least, religion is stronger than ever. Bush the Elder even said that atheists were inherently un-American (even though many of the founders were more or less atheists.) I think Bysshe is pronounced with a long "i" sound. Top #34972 - 07/08/01 02:34 PM Re: Shelley musick Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/24/00 Posts: 2658 Loc: Chicago Since my definition of 'American', the one the founding fathers attempted to protect, has nothing to do with religion (in theory), atheists being un-American is more or less BS. The only reason religion is more widespread (not "stronger" as you may suggest) is the increase in folks and peoples who claim to be religious... not actually understand or follow the doctorines to which they have defaulted. Thanks for the poem Max... I feel all warm and fuzzy inside! Top #34973 - 07/08/01 03:13 PM Re: Shelley wwh Carpal Tunnel Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 13858 Dear musick: better to be warm on the inside;, but fuzzy on the outside. Top #34974 - 07/08/01 09:22 PM Re: Shelley WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/13/01 Posts: 4189 Loc: Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... A favorite P.B. Shelley quote: "I fall upon the thorns of life, I bleed!" Top #34975 - 07/09/01 10:47 AM Re: Shelley wow Carpal Tunnel Registered: 11/25/00 Posts: 3439 Loc: New England, USA "To every man conscience is a God." Top #34976 - 07/09/01 11:02 AM Re: Shelley wwh Carpal Tunnel Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 13858 "To every man conscience is a God." Not every man has a conscience, or if he has one heeds it. Top #34977 - 07/09/01 11:06 AM Re: Shelley Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Registered: 11/13/00 Posts: 3146 Loc: Northamptonshire, England Personally, I prefer his wife's writings ... _________________________ The idiot also known as Capfka ... Top #34978 - 07/09/01 12:05 PM Re: Shelley maverick Carpal Tunnel Registered: 09/15/00 Posts: 4757 Personally, I prefer his milkman's... Top #34979 - 07/09/01 04:43 PM Re: Shelley Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Registered: 11/13/00 Posts: 3146 Loc: Northamptonshire, England Don't you mean that his wife preferred his mil ... nah! _________________________ The idiot also known as Capfka ... Top #34980 - 07/09/01 05:50 PM Re: Shelley wwh Carpal Tunnel Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 13858 "To every man conscience is a God." According the the encyclopedia, it seems that Shelley's conscience was a bit less than God-like. He left his first wife (reasons not stated) and three weeks after she apparently committed suicide by drowning, married the author of "Frankenstein" with whom he apparently had had an intimate relationship about two years. Top #34981 - 07/10/01 12:14 AM Re: Shelley WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/13/01 Posts: 4189 Loc: Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... YOU AND ME AND P.B. SHELLEY by Ogden Nash What is life? Life is stepping down a step or sitting in a chair, And it isn't there. Life is not having been told the man has just waxed the floor, It is pulling doors marked PUSH and pushing doors marked PULL and not noticing notices which say PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR. It is when you diagnose a sore throat as an unprepared geopgraphy lesson and send your child weeping to school only to be returned an hour later covered with spots that are indubitably genuine, It is a concert with a trombone soloist filling in for Yehudi Menuhin. Were it not for frustration and humiliation I suppose the human race would get ideas above its station. Somebody once described Shelley as a beautiful and ineffective angel beating his luminous wings against the void in vain, Which is certainly describing with might and main, But probably means that we are all brothers under our pelts, And Shelley went around pulling doors marked PUSH and pushing doors marked PULL just like everybody else. (c) Ogden Nash 1948 Top #34982 - 07/10/01 09:51 AM Re: Shelley wow Carpal Tunnel Registered: 11/25/00 Posts: 3439 Loc: New England, USA In his later years Mr. Nash lived on the NH seacoast and could often be seen at the neighborhood lunch counter swapping stories with the locals. A short Nash poem: The Turtle The turtle lives 'twixt plated decks Which practically conceal its sex. I think it clever of the turtle In such a fix to be so fertile. http://www.westegg.com/nash/ fo a selection of his poems.Ogden Nash is one of my favorite poets. Always good for a smile or a laugh and a good antidote for a blue day. Top Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Previous Topic Index Next Topic Preview Hop to: General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. 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