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Do y'all think it would be fair to sum up by deciding the T-less often is standard (North) American and the T-full often is standard Everywhere Else? (I'd like to hear a vote from Canada, still...)
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I think your aunt is right. The children are just misinterpreting what they see as an unusual pronunciation.
I find it is quite common here in Edinburgh amongst young children to regard any English accent (I mean any) as "posh". I've noticed this when the children are asked to play certain characters in drama.
Several people have told me that as an English "Northener" it took a long time to be regarded as a "Southerner". It is technically true on the compass but being from the North rather than the South is about much more than points on a compass! I imagine it is true for people in other countries too.
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Okay--define "posh" for this poor Yankee.
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elegant, fashionable, fancy (slangy) there is an interesting story behind the origin of posh: http://quinion.com/words/qa/qa-pos1.htm
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I think most people here believe in the "Port Out Starboard Home" story. Even if it's not true it sounds true!
To descibe "posh" you have to understand our British obsession with irony. I think that "elegant" might be true but doesn't capture the word. I suspect that "fancy" is a better description as it has more of a dual nature. It's quite a childish word. It has an inverted snobbery overtone. If you said someone was "posh" you'd be more likely to mean pretentious than elegant. On the other hand someone might be quite pleased to be going to a smart occasion and might go out to buy a "posh frock". Translating it to a "fancy dress" rather than "elegant gown" would capture more of the flavour
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In reply to:
a "fancy dress"
as opposed to fancy dress, not the same thing at all.
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Absolutely
(This ties in rather well with the clothes worn at some public schools)
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Okay, y'all're startin' to lose me now!
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I was just refering to the school uniform worn at Eton (one of our "Public Schools"). It has been in the news here recently with the eighteenth birthday pictures that were taken of Prince William. If you look at the Sunday Times Newspaper for 18th June 2000 you can see the pictures - N.B. this is the school uniform for those in their last year, they are not dressed for a wedding. Apparently they can wear their own choice of waistcoat. http://www.sunday-times.co.uk
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Funny, we were talking about salt all that time ago but I remember that the poster in question was a Southern gal in those days!
Thought you might like a quick scan of an old thread, a-a-h, the nostalgia!
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