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Or by error. Haven't checked with STWIGVP.
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Nah, he's just been poorly influenced (oh, and watch out - the Looahvul Slugger will point out to you that in KY it's "you-all," not "y'all" )
That's true, actually, and I say you-all more typically than I say y'all. I also occasionally say "you-guys"--hey Kentucky was a border state in the war! But I figured for the sake of comedy it woul dbe better to stick to the more immediately recognizable "y'all." *sigh* you can't please everyone... ;]
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STWIGVP??
"Stop the world. I've got vertiginous persuasions"?
And I can't believe I just wrote "I've got", which is possibly my only pet hate. As punishment, it's staying in.
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crucifixationMaybe you've been listenin' to Fuzzy Dubya too much!  Or maybe you're just one of those proud Bushonics speakers who are now rallying for their linguistic rights!  Do you also then believe in the Resurrsuscication? 
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I just wrote "I've got", which is possibly my only pet hate
Why?
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Bingley asks Why?
For two reasons. Firstly, the word 'got' is greatly over-used, and it's not a nice sounding word. Secondly, it's obsolete when you use it after I've. "I have vertiginous persuasions", sounds much better and much more correct than "I've got vertiginous persuasions".
At least, that's my opinion.
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While I would agree get/got can be overused, banning "I've got" seems like a cure that is worse than the disease. There does seem to be some difference in meaning:
I've got a cold -- a single occurrence now.
I have a cold (every winter) -- a repeated event.
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We've discussed the I've got/I have difference at some time in the past, and concluded that I've got is acceptable in North America, though less so in other English-speaking countries. It's used here, without reservations, all the time.
So rather than condemning it, maybe it would be better to realize that it's one of those regional variations of English.
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I've got a cold -- a single occurrence now.
I have a cold (every winter) -- a repeated event
And "I've a cold" just sounds riduculous.
Not to mention "Stop the world. I've vertiginous persuasions", which not only *sounds ridiculous but doesn't satisfy the requirements of an expansion of the acronym (and, yes, I *can pronounce it, YCASTWIR).
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Regarding the issue of I've got, the use of have as a free standing verb indicating possession conflicts, in this instance, with its function as a periphrastic marker for the past perfect tense, particularly when used in the abbreviated form I've. This conflict requires resolution, which is accomplished with the seemingly redundant use of the synonymous verb got.
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