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#31022 06/04/01 09:42 PM
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We, the richest country in the world, still allow people to live like this. Shame on us.

They're still better off than most of the people in Africa. And how exactly are we detirmining that we're the richest country in the world? There are countries with higher standards of living. I think Switzerland and Sweden may be examples, but I'm not sure.


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how exactly are we determining that we're the richest country in the world?

[rant]greedy carbon guzzlers[/rant


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how exactly are we determining that we're the richest country in the world?
[rant]greedy carbon guzzlers[/rant

Then there's the question of what kind of wealth we mean. I've forgotten who it was who said that the true mark of how civilised a people is is how they treat their poorest members. By that standard, those in the USA who DON'T greedily consume carbon are pariahs.


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greedy carbon guzzlers

I'd just like to point out that today (June 5th) is World Environment Day. To misquote Tom Lehrer, "then we can forget about it for another year!"

I truly hope not. Today is the day for working out how to do something (or more often NOT do something) to help the environment and then keep on (not) doing it all year.

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Bingley asks: The question is of course if US'n households don't run to airing cupboards what do they do with their laundry during bad weather?

US'ns does the same thang with our laundry in bad weather as we does in dry, sunny weather. We sticks it in the dryer.


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And now we have the second type of "airing cupboard" - a place for any and all gripes. So, while I'm at it, DOWN with all acronyms not defined at beginning of articles.- DWAANDAB


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Vaguely on topic:

Has anyone ever heard a stove/cooker/oven called a hob? I know it has another older meaning (i.e. ca. metal shelf next to a fire), but this dodgy dictionary I looked in said some people use it nowadays for a stove/cooker (to be clear, I mean: an apparatus in which electricity or a fuel is used to heat food).


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yes-- as "my stove have four hobs-- or "the place was pretty primitive-- but it had a hob to heat up a pot of coffee.." but I use burner for hob-- I think of hob as being more UK-- but i think was covered in a thread last fall-- about cookers vs stoves, and toaster ovens vs. electric kettles.. the name and the things that we consider essential-- and how they differ from country to country. Broilers generated a good deal of interest..and then the whole thing collapsed in a food thread about welsh rabbit and other forms of melted cheese!-- but YCLIU.


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Clothes go outside to dry (when it's not raining that is) and then in the wardrobe. No problem with mildew if you keep the wardrobe doors open and circulate the clothes (fresh clothes to the back of the wardrobe so that the ones that have been there a few days come forward and get worn). Here in Jakarta I have air conditioning, but it's only on when I'm at home. Bandung is more humid, but not so hot, so I didn't have air conditioning there, but the system still worked.

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Yep, hob is British, as indeed are airing cupboards. While most of us living in Britain have electric kettles (a central kitchen appliance if there ever was one), some people have plain metal kettles that they boil on the hob. They are the kind that whistle to let you know they are boiling, and have evolved in many cases into trendy, stylish objects.
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