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#29659 - 10/13/01 12:03 PM Re: Redundantly tautological pleonastic names
musick Offline
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If my memory serves me, the same issue was brought up by Bingley in referrence to a different word.

Ever since, upon seeing a word spelled with a "Y", I've repronounced it to make the "Y" a seperate, stressesd syllable... fun, but not productive.

The ile part of sterile is pronounced the same as in isle/aisle. Yep and nope... It depends upon meaning. In order to differentiate between *sterile meaning "clean" and *sterile meaning "unproductive", the later is given the "aisle" pronunciation (not like they would ever be confused)!


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#29660 - 10/13/01 12:51 PM Re: Redundantly tautological pleonastic names
Keiva Offline
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Perhaps it would be well to LIU in the dictionary and post the results here. I'd be pleased to do so if some experienced soul would kindly inform me how to reproduce, on this board, the dictionary's diacritical marks.


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#29661 - 10/13/01 01:36 PM Re: Redundantly tautological pleonastic names
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The stinkin' dictionary says the long I sound is Brit, and since I'm clearly no Brit, the stinkin' dictionary is *useless in this case...in most cases artfully®


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#29662 - 10/13/01 08:00 PM Re: Redundantly tautological pleonastic names
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'zik, I was unable to find the Stinkin Dictionary, and therefore relied upon the American Heritage® Dictionary, which Faldage so often cites (at bartleby.com) (note: I'm unable to reproduce the schwa symbol here, for which I have substituted ÷.)

barrel: pronounced (băr ÷l)
beryl: pronounced (bĕr÷l)
sterile: pronounced (stĕr ÷l) or (stĕr īl)
stair: pronounced (stâr)


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#29663 - 10/13/01 08:37 PM Post deleted by Wordwind
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#29664 - 10/13/01 09:59 PM Re: Pleonostrums
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Max, I think you are threading us along here. Pleonasm simply means "superfluous" or "redundant". Dawnmarie, indeed! Now I understand how one rises in the ranks around here. Tee Hee. P.S. I'm new. How come I can't post icons and blue paste-ups like you veterans (and Pooh-Bahs)? Are these insignia of rank, or what?


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#29665 - 10/13/01 10:28 PM Re: Pleonostrums
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How come I can't post icons and blue paste-ups like you veterans (and Pooh-Bahs)?
Plutarch: See your private messages!!!

Doubledub: I shall jadly goin you at the barrel (hic); and I agree wholeheartedly with your line: I never ever write with a pin or fasten things with a pen. [shudder e]


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#29667 - 10/13/01 10:55 PM pleonasisms
plutarch Offline
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"But it sure would have made a nice 6/8 metrical example."

Inspires me to poetic versification, Wordwind.




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#29668 - 10/13/01 11:01 PM Pleonarcissism
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Come to think of it, "Dawnmarie" isn't an example of a "pleonasm", Max. Its an example of "pleonarcissism". (Like falling in love with your reflection in the water.)


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