#29650 - 10/12/01 07:40 AM
Re: pronuuciation
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/04/01
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My understanding is the name Beryl is ponounced like the semi-precious stone of that name; rhymes Cheryl or sterile. Not a perfect match for "barrel", but closer if "barrel" is being used as a minor, unstressed word in a sentence. Closeness depends in part on the speaker's accent: a brit, for example, would pronouce more broadly the a in "barrel".
There is also the name Barrell (masc., yiddish), never common, but I've never heard of anyone having that name younger than may grandparents' generation.
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#29651 - 10/12/01 09:19 AM
Re: pronuuciation
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/09/00
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Loc: Jakarta
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In reply to:
the name Beryl is ponounced like the semi-precious stone of that name; rhymes Cheryl or sterile
With Cheryl maybe, certainly not with sterile.
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#29652 - 10/12/01 09:43 AM
Re: pronuuciation
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newbie
Registered: 10/11/01
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Loc: Cheshire, UK
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With Cheryl maybe, certainly not with sterileAbsolutely, old chap  . Nor with futile or butyl.
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#29654 - 10/12/01 10:31 AM
Re: Redundantly tautological pleonastic names
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 04/09/00
Posts: 3065
Loc: Jakarta
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Oh ye gods. I wish this board had sound capacity.
The first syllable of sterile and Beryl has the same vowel as in men or Ben. The ile part of sterile is pronounced the same as in isle/aisle. The yl part of Beryl is pronounced ull.
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#29655 - 10/12/01 11:25 AM
Re: regional?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/04/01
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Interesting. As to Beryl, my region agrees with Jackie and Bingley, with the distincion that the second syllable, unstressed, is probably the schma sound. As to sterile, Bingley's version would sound completely odd and off here. Could this be the standard "atlantic divide" (geographically teleported, in Bingley's case  )? Jackie's version ("stair") would pass here, but would sold faintly foreign. In that I'm assuming, an may well be mistaken, that Jackie would pronounce "stair" the same as a Chicagoan would. Faldage's usual "bartleby" site give the first syllable of "sterile" per my version (and beryl the same), but the second syllable per Bingley's. Was the word ever spoken in the movie The Sterile Cookoo?
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#29656 - 10/12/01 11:46 AM
Re: Redundantly tautological pleonastic names
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 11580
Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
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The first syllable of sterile and Beryl has the same vowel as in men or Ben.Yes, I just said that: the e sound in men and Ben is the same as the a-sound in bare or air: BEH-rull, = barrel. I breathe ehr. I climb the stehr. The ile part of sterile is pronounced the same as in isle/aisle.Nope. Ill or ull.
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#29657 - 10/12/01 03:40 PM
Re: Redundantly tautological pleonastic names
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/17/00
Posts: 3467
Loc: Marion NC
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Here's a few that came to me in my sleep last night:
Pat Small
Peter Dwindle
Mike Measure
Pat Cosset
John Throne
John Loo
Carl Peasant
Marsh Moore
Earl Peer
Earl Noble
Marshal Sheriff
Marshal Constable
Marshal Reeve
Carrie Young (not pleonastic but funny to me!)
Van Wayne
Carrie Trust
Ted Scatter
Carol Singer
Chuck Roast
Karen Custody
Margaret Pearl
Wayne Wright
Carrie Winn
Job Post
Barry Intern
Bob Barber
Bill Dunn
Mark Brand
Art Talent
John Customer
Tom Drake
Sue Woo
Perhaps when I'm wide awake I'll think of a few more.
And here's one for the Englishers:
Tom Gibb
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#29658 - 10/12/01 11:04 PM
Re: Redundantly tautological pleonastic names
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old hand
Registered: 07/03/00
Posts: 1094
Loc: Cincinnati & Loveland, Ohio, U...
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Yes, I just said that: the e sound in men and Ben is the same as the a-sound in bare or air: BEH-rull, = barrel.
Hold on a sec. This is only a Southern occurance. Y'all down there pronounce the e in men and Ben like a long a with a little more toward the i sound. That makes men and man sound very similar. And that's why Kentucky sounds like Caintuck. I would say that for the rest of us in the US, Ben and bare sound quite different.
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