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The more likely root in my book would be 'sláva' - fame or glory
I think slov- 'word' and slav- 'glory' are connected: I seem to recall reading something recently (I suspect Lehmann's book on Indo-European) which made the claim. For the vowels, there's the ethnonyms Slovene and Slovak. For the semantic connexion, cf. Greek doxa 'opinion; glory', where the semantic shift is via a common sense 'reputation'.
Afterthought:
I might be confabulating at this point, but I even have an idea that the underlying Slavonic slew- 'speak' is Indo-European klew-, and therefore related to loud and ?listen and Latin cli-ent.
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Wow, Aunt mav, your esteem just keeps getting higher and higher, in my eyes!  (Just keep talking that way about Shakespeare, Sweetie, and you may convert me yet--without having to resort to sneakified tactics.  )
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[shameless name-drop] – at school, I was in a production of this play with Daniel Day Lewis. He was quite good even then
Mav, that is so cool! What part did you play in the production, and what part he?
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I was Trinculo (“A murrain on your monster, and the devil take your fingers!”), I think Dan was Ferdinand, getting the girl even in those days! This was much to our chagrin, you understand, because we all felt cheated by the drama teacher hogging the plum role of Prospero. He played with the deus ex machina elements by running the lighting board (the dimmer controls) from on-stage in plain view, which us mere goblins could never quite decide was really cool or rather tacky. Great fun though. In another production, Dan and I shared the role of Jack in a dramatisation of Lord of the Flies – that got very confusing for the audience, since we swapped roles part way through each performance and did not have significant costuming or other clues to offer signposts! And especially one night when we ‘looped’ the dialogue into what threatened to form an endless spiel, whilst simultaneously rendering the plot incomprehensible by cutting 2 key scenes. I made a suitably gruesome pig’s head on a stick over many weeks in the art department. Otherwise it was a black box experimental kind of production: I can remember exclaiming crossly to my dad around then that “I wished we sometimes did an ordinary play!”. It evidently didn’t cause any problems for Dan, though, and he has been anything but ordinary ever since
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oh and I meant to correct my mangled quotes: it should read "hurried" not harried, and "have quit" not 'had quit', which latter one looks odd now I read it again. And the stage direction is actually 'On a ship at sea; a tempestuous noise of thunder and lightning heard' - "Hast thou, spirit, performed to point the tempest that I bade thee?" asks P of Ariel a bit later.
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Bugger you.... shameless name dropping ....are you always so lonq-winded? By the time I came to the end of your post, I was quite perplexed as to why you had responded in the first!
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Forgive my ineptitude, please, Bingley, but that link seems to bring me to a discussion on pluralism, in which the Jewish historian Josephus figures prominently. 
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The ineptitude is all mine  . For some reason links only seem to work for the top thread on that board. Once I've worked out how to link to threads further down I'll repost the message, and delete my original posting, thus baffling everybody else even more. Bingley
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