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Drove through Iowa on cross country trip. OFF the Interstates. Really nifty towns with some great examples of Victorian and American Gothic architecture. And some amazing antique shops! Nice folks,too.
But I cannot argue with "flat", Mav, except for the parties which are anything but!!!
Welcome Iowa!
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I didn't get it at all, and have been missing a lot of daily offerings. I received an email from Anu today noting that there is a problem with AOL email. He got on to some people at AOL but didn't get any satisfaction. Apparantly, this is a problem systemwide with AOL to the point that AOL mail is becoming a joke. I knew there were problems, but didn't know it was that bad. I sent my own message to Steve Case suggesting he get one of his geniuses on the problem before this mighty empire he has built up founders on such a simple matter as email, which is, after all, one of the main reasons one uses AOL, or any other IPI. Have any of you also had problems with AOL?
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Where I neck in the woods...er, I mean, out here in California, we say ISP - Internet Service Provider. What's an IPI (besides a sixties counter-culture type)?
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Where I neck in the woods...er, I mean, out here in California, we say ISP As do we here at the top of the world. I think that everybody does, except for those poor unfortunates using AOL, aka AOHell, AOSmell, etc. In every computer-related NG I frequent, the chant is the same, "AOL is NOT a real ISP", "AOL is the work of the Devil", "dump AOL while you still can" 
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I can't remember whether this came up in a post on the Board, or whether I was in some other forum, but the ones to avoid like the plague are: AOL MSN Hotmail Yahoo These "providers", as I understand it, lay claim in the fine print to all your material on their servers as their property including your commercially-sensitive information and intellectual property. When challenged, apparently they say that it's to keep them out of legal hot water, and that they don't, in fact, invade your files at all. You'd use them of course. Yeah, right. Note that the wording they use seems innocuous, but Sparteye or Scribbler or any half-trained legal eagle would apparently spot the problems pretty much right away. This doesn't include me. No doubt there are other ISPs out there who will steal anything which isn't nailed down. Using a webmail provider is, however, a major risk. I research ISPs as best I can, myself ... 
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Re: material in e-mail being property of ISP
So what if it is. Few of us have anything there of potential monetary value. And with so many subscribers, how could the ISP afford the cost of searching for anything they could profit from?
I'd be a lot more upset by Bobyoungbalt's information that AOL fails to deliver a significant number of messages.That really stinks. I used to get notice that messages I had sent to another board member had become "enqeued" for several days, and could never tell for sure whether or not they were delivered. I suspect that the other party's ISP was somehow incompetent.
How can you find out if your ISP is ripping you off? Your friends do not want to be quizzed about every message.
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So what if it is. Few of us have anything there of potential monetary value.
The only real answer to this (aside from the occasional pre-published poem, or creating a collection of your e-mails to be subpoenaed(sp?) at a latter date) is the collection of e-mail addresses and future (for me present) junk mail wrath!
Check your ISP's privacy policy (if they have one).
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Bill has asked a legitimate question: "So what if your ISP is not particularly ethical?"
Two things you need to consider before using email to transfer potentially actionable or sensitive information around the place:
1. Most ISPs are working at very low margins and will be looking for any way they can to make a buck.
2. Not all ISPs are ethical in the way they treat their customers, never mind in respect of the data on their servers.
You and I may not have much to lose this way; but companies who use an ISP whose business ethics are dodgy are just asking for trouble.
I have problems with using any any supplier of services who acts unethically whether that affects me directly or not.
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Bill has asked a legitimate question: "So what if your ISP is not particularly ethical?"
Dear CK: that is not quite what I said. I would not want to support an unethical company. My problem is that I do not see how to tell which ISP is best for me.
I am reminded of an old timer's aphorism: "There ain't no choice in a pig turd."
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I am reminded of an old timer's aphorism: "There ain't no choice in a pig turd."
Graphic but unfortunately true. Conjures up another bout of WordPix, it really does.
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