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#27081 04/30/01 09:08 AM
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Rather than start a whole new thread.
I heard a statement in a program on Celts this weekend that because of the social structure of conqueror and conquered, only 10 loan words have passed from Welsh into the English language. Any one got any ideas on what they might be, or where to find out? I guessed "Bard" but that comes from Gaelic apparently. If you think Eisteddford is in English use then that might be one. I have not yet had time to research this yet. (Druid?)
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Has anyone else noticed that "mondegreen" is the word of the day at yourdictionary.com [url]http://www.yourdictionary.com/cgi-bin/wotd.cgi[url] today 30th April?? URL will probably give another word on different days.
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Hi Rod.

the 'Druid' name seems to be more a name given to those men and women who study Celtic mysticism, philosophy, etc. rather than one they gave themselves.
'Eisteddfod' is a great word, I now know it's Welsh, it sounded more nordic to me.
The only Welsh word that came to mind was 'flummery', which is some kind of pudding, but is used in English to mean nonsensical language or just nonsense in general.
for examples see this excellent link:
http://www.oreilly.com/people/staff/sierra/flum/

Since visiting Wales, (because I happened to be in Bristol) 'bout 5 years ago I often use one word I picked up there:
toiledau = toilet


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Hey BY, thanks for Flummery. Now there's a word I didn't expect to be Welsh. (and thanks for changing my name back ).

COMBE from CWM is another contender I suppose.

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How did you know I did that?

My uncle's name is Ron, ops. It's always the most simple names which are the most troublesome!


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How did you know I did that? change name from Ron to Rod

I've got my profile set up to send me answers by e-mail. So I got your first post. But not the update incidentally which I saw via the web when I went to reply.
It's always the most simple names which are the most troublesome!

and the people with the simplest brains!

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" only 10 loan words have passed from welsh into the English language "
Dear Rod: I just now encountered the name "Enid" in the di ctionary, which gives its derivation from an old Welsh word meaning "soul".


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is crwth one of the borrowed welsh words?

anyone know how to pronounce it? surely it's not just "crowd", right?


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is crwth one of the borrowed welsh words?
anyone know how to pronounce it? surely it's not just "crowd", right?

My dictionary says it is pronounced "krooth"

Interestingly it says it is an instrument similar to a violin. I have seen the word "crowder" as an obsolete word for fiddler.

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>Since you can't post on "Loanwords from German"...

my mind returned to this (as a coder's mind will do) in light of the "lost thread" that we had a while back -- so I did a search for "Guten Tag". you won't see much except for a long list of folks who beat their heads against the proverbial wall.


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