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#25069 03/29/01 12:14 PM
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and when they get to putting viruses in all those image files, we will be able to warn people: "Beware of Geeks bearing gifs!"

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Ok, all you Computer Gurus, Outlook Express was installed when I bought the computer.
So how, and should, I get rid of it?
What subsitute?
Will addresses book and all the saved stuff disappear?
Awaiting enlightment ...
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Take absolutely no notice of these Jeremiahs, wow! Outlook is no worse than most programs, and better than many. It is the de facto standard around the globe. Of course, when someone stands by the side of the road and sees 20 smashes, half of which involve Ford cars, they might think Fords are risky - but in proportion to the number being driven??

Nah - I have no time for the Micro$oft knockers. I remember the umpteen wasted days of my life in earlier times trying to get two programs to talk to each other on the same damn computer, let alone hundreds talking to each other all around the world. Like it or lump it, Micro$oft has played a key rôle in establishing standards.

That they are not bomb-proof standards is partly down to us: we all want things cheap, want them yesterday, want someone else to pay.

/rant (and I too laughed liek a drain at the original post)


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The wise one asks: Outlook Express was installed when I bought the computer. So how, and should, I get rid of it?

I've pretty much always had it preinstalled and never ever used it. Doesn't seem to be a problem.


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Regarding the name Microsoft, anybody ever wonder where it comes from? My guess is He took it from "Neuromancer" ( a wonderful novel, if you like that sort of thing.) A microsoft is a digital spike you insert in your head as a sort of a brain upgrade.

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You can probably uninstall Outlook Express in "Remove Software" in the Control Panel. It's an optional install in Windows, so you can either not bother installing it to begin with or (back to the top).
Other mail clients are available. Eudora, for one. Someone mentioned Pegasus yesterday (which seems to come without a manual, unless you plunk down $40. And Netscape.

Easiest is don't open suspect attachments.



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Easiest is don't open suspect attachments

... but best is run an effective virus cutter, and keep it updated weekly or monthly, since all programs can let through some viruses. And most of these nuisances can be eliminated without any hint of a problem unless people are plain lazy about it. /preach


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As long as you follow the advice given to NEVER open any attachments without scanning them for viruses first, Outlook/Express is OK. A good practice to get into these days, with so many worms propagating themselves from Outlook/Express address books is to email the sender of an attachment, if the apparent sender someone you know, and confirm that they sent it to you intentionally, if they did not, it probably means that their address book has been compromised by a worm, like "I Love You" or "Anna Kournikova" . If it's from someone you don't know, don't open it. Outlook/Express is a security joke, it was never designed with security in mind, and its position as de facto standard is why so many viruses and worms are written to exploit its legion of security holes. A healthy dose of paranoia will ensure that using that bloated email client does not cause you too much grief.


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Dear Friends,
Thank you all for the opinions on Outlook Express. Guess I'll just leave it alone and stay suspicious!
Many thanks,
wow


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I've just spent a frustrating two days trying to use Lotus Goats -erp- Notes as an email program. Gimme Outlook any day. All God's chillun got problems, and so's Microsoft's. But some problems is worse dan others.

BTW Maxie, I know the guy who wrote Pegasus Mail. Worked with him for two years. Sorry, rather, I worked with his ego. Not knocking the guy's expertise, his marketing or even his program, but not for me, ta.



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I know the guy who wrote Pegasus Mail. Worked with him for two years. Sorry, rather, I worked with his ego. Not knocking the guy's expertise, his marketing or even his program, but not for me, ta.

My condolences! It is easy to understand how an experience like that could put you off his work. I guess that I'm lucky to benefit from his work without ahving to suffer the ego that creates it. On a cheerier note, can you believe what the Black Caps did today?


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