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#23866 03/21/01 09:24 PM
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variant -- "We saw Beethoven last night."

What'd you do, exhume him?


#23867 03/21/01 11:46 PM
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What'd you do, exhume him?

Please!


#23868 03/22/01 02:19 AM
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I think they rolled him over [walkin away whistling emoticon]


#23869 03/22/01 02:53 AM
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What was brown, and found on the piano bench?

Beethoven's last movement.
[ready for the onslaught emoticon]


#23870 03/22/01 07:46 AM
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... and the smell that's lingering is Jackie decomposing ...

[ready for my own funeral emoticon]



The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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["ahem" e]

Mav,
Helen of Troy brought this up over in the icon thread, but want to make sure you (and all other interested folks, which is probably the large majority of y'all) see it: the April issue of Harper's magazine carries an essay by David Foster Wallace called "Tense Present: Democracy, English and the Wars Over Usage." Indeed, as Helen mentioned, it is lengthy and footnote-filled (which the magazine points out with glee) but it looks like some juicy reading. The essay's hook is Garner's A Dictionary of Modern American Usage (Oxford Univ. Press), which I haven't seen yet but plan on finding.
Wallace warns us that offering counsel on the finer points of U.S. English is Preaching to the Choir (i.e. nobody's gonna be interested except those of us who read William Safire's column on language in the Sunday NYTimes magazine, for example) but oh, well, noblesse oblige, I guess.

Can you get Harper's over there in the Old Country?


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No chance of my seeing the essay unless it's online, but Garner's work did get a review by Tom McArthur in English Today for October 1999, and then a reply to the review from Garner in the October 2000 issue (it's a quarterly by the way, so the gap isn't as large as it might seem).

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"..exhume him?"

If the string that followed this was the awful one I think it was, I would like to say for the record that I did not give the idiotic usage as an example of what *I* would say or ever have, but as a something I'd heard often enough along the way to make me numb or vomit, depending on my then current state of wellness.


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Just to be difficult and prove myself a member of the crowd Ayleu. I'd have to say I'd say "You've finally arrived". I wouldn't say have but I'd definetely have the 've in there.


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I bought the magazine yestereve and took it in with me to my standard Thursday bar restaurant. I got about two pages in to the article and had to leave because I was frightening the other customers and the hired help with my constant guffawing. Just a sample. The author claims to be a SNOOT from a family of SNOOTs (approximately 70% of his family claim the label). SNOOT may be interpreted as either Sprachgefühl Necessitates Our Ongoing Tendance or Syntax Nudniks Of Our Time depending on whether or not the interpreter is a SNOOT.


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