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#23821 03/27/01 03:48 AM
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Jackie, I'm deadly serious. "Daffydd", or however the Welsh spell it, is a very common Welsh name, it is "David." From that name, has come the use of "Taffy" to refer to any Welshman, in the same way that "Paddy" is used as a generic term for an Irishman, and "Jimmy" for Glaswegians.


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And between Lewes and Newhaven in East Sussex, UK is the small village "Tarring Neville". Who Neville is/was and why he should be tarred, I have been unable to find out.

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Well, I sneaked a couple in before this:
Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuaakitanarahu
The Adventure
Usually Mark awoke terrified and worried.
He always knew a tired and nervous ghetto inhabitant had absolutely no glamour, and kids
only another untouchable.
An unusually optimistic tone announced Mark's attempt to end a truly unfulfilling reality.
"I'll pack underwear, (knickers and keks), and panties (in mauve)."
An unworldy noise grated across his obsessive ramblings,
Oh No! Uncle Kevin upstairs probably, or Kevin's Aunt Isobel whistling.
His emnity newly uplifted, acquiring a knife, impassioned, the avenger
noiselessly and relentlessly advancing himself upstairs....

If you want an ending, you'll have to find a longer place name!
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<<daffyd, or however the Welsh write it>>

How do the speak it, specifically the "y"?


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As I recall (I am half Welsh and learnt a little) the "y" in Daffyd is like "i" in "in", "is", "it", or even "David".
But in "Ar Hyd Y Nos" (All Through the Night)it is an "ee" sound. I will see if I have names in my Welsh Dictionary with English proununciations (or ask my aunt, or wait for a better post!)

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Daffydd would tranliterate to something like the SE phonemes of DAH-vith. The double 'ff' makes the /f/ sound, whereas single 'f' = /v/ as there is no such letter in the Welsh alphabet. In Ar Hyd Y Nos I think I would render it something like Ar~rrrrr Heed Er Noss (like 'norse' without the rhotic sound!) So the two examples of 'y' seem to be pronounced very differently, depending on context.

(But bear in mind I am not even half-Welsh, indeed - just interested in language and living in Wales, so I am happy to be corrected by Auntie Myfanwy )


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The posts have gone a bit wide again. To read have to move bar so it obscures poster"s name.
On my screen it started with your post, Max. (Ducking head and cringing for embarrassing MQ)
But then perhaps it's just me.
wow


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it started with your post, Max

You should see the roadsign..!


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Maverick << You should see the roadsign.. >>!

I'd love to ... is that an invitation?
Have passport, will travel.
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On my screen it started with your post, Max

Sorry about that. Mav's right, you should see the road sign! It's something of a tourist attraction, about an hour and a half from my place. Quite why anybody would want to drive into the middle of nowhere to some utterly unremarkable hill just to take a photo of themselves next to a road sign is beyond me.


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