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#213126 - 11/05/13 05:05 PM Re: Would Understanding Evolution add anything ? [Re: jenny jenny]
olly Offline
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Me too!

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#213212 - 11/14/13 01:20 AM With First Man's Sowing Last Man Did Reap [Re: olly]
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

And then one day before there were days, the big bang banged with intent. Then much later, we humans were born in midst of all the banging and we rightly decided to look back, and ahead, to try to figure out the fundamental nature of that original intent.
But you won't find it here. What you will find (if you have a brain that listens) is that you are simply a fleshy robot who has a pretend free will only as much as a will can be considered free by a prudent use of semantics.

Gravity determines what you will do. Your biology determines what you will do. The whole Universe directs you to do what you most certainly will.

( I'll stop here for questions or comments or converts raising their hands to get in line to be washed )

Good. You are right not to argue. Anybody who has the brains of an arthropod will himself extrapolate that life and nonlife could not have come into being any other way.

Next: Whats Words Got To Do With It?






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#213411 - 12/01/13 09:32 PM What are Words?The structure of language and logic [Re: jenny jenny]
jenny jenny Offline
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Socrates knew it, the early Jews knew it, and certainly the great Buddha knew it, so why is it that you people here don't know it and won't listen when I tell you?

Sigh...ok one more time
WORDS HAVE NO ABSOLUTE MEANINGS; WORDS ONLY HAVE FUNCTION


Now listen closely; words and language are physical mechanisms that evolved to aid in the continuance of the speaking clade and not at all for us to understand the nature of the Universe around us.
The senses input; the words output; and if the output has survival consequences for the breeding group it becomes an operating meme.

Logic within our use of words is only logical within an arbitrary set of symbols that are defined by the needs of cause and effect and of the inscrutable concept we perceive as Time.

Or something like that.




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#213516 - 12/09/13 06:32 PM Re: What are Words?The structure of language and logic [Re: jenny jenny]
olly Offline
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Still don't get it Jenny!

WORDS HAVE NO ABSOLUTE MEANINGS; WORDS ONLY HAVE FUNCTION

No problem there!

Maybe its the Budhha/socrates/In the beginning scenarios that are distracting me.

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#213522 - 12/10/13 12:37 AM Re: What are Words?The structure of language and logic [Re: olly]
jenny jenny Offline
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Olly, as a meme this Buddhaish quotation will serve..

"In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west; people create distinctions out of their own minds and then believe them to be true."
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And as for Socrates; dialogues are sometimes searches for truth but they are also circuitous ways to comprehend the obscure ways of the meanings of our words.

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#213525 - 12/10/13 04:13 AM Re: What are Words?The structure of language and logic [Re: jenny jenny]
olly Offline
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Words are only sounds that we hear. What we think is more important.

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#213538 - 12/10/13 09:31 PM Re: What are Words?The structure of language and logic [Re: olly]
jenny jenny Offline
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Think, Olly.
What we think is out of our control.

Enjoy the ride.

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