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#209076 - 01/15/13 10:53 PM Determinism
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Loc: Louisville, Kentucky Exactly what is this, please?
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#209078 - 01/15/13 11:32 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie]
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Posts: 4757 A fancy modern sciencey retelling of an old word: fatalism.
but I would say that, wouldn't I, given the existing conditions...?
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#209079 - 01/16/13 02:35 AM Re: Determinism [Re: maverick]
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Loc: Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi Originally Posted By: maverickA fancy modern sciencey retelling of an old word: fatalism.
but I would say that, wouldn't I, given the existing conditions...?![]()
Ah but remember, Maverick, you only think in terms of a purposeless existence.
But Lo, with the Big Bang came purpose.
We might not know our purpose. How could we? We are only deterministic.
But think about it. Whatever the Big Bang was all about... that is our purpose.
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#209087 - 01/16/13 12:32 PM Re: Determinism [Re: jenny jenny]
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Loc: Land of the Flat Water Fatalism?
Can you be more specific, please.
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#209090 - 01/16/13 01:19 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie]
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#209091 - 01/16/13 01:31 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Loc: Land of the Flat Water I see. Thanks. Some study is needed on my part. Appreciate it._________________________
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#209092 - 01/16/13 02:44 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Loc: this too shall pass Originally Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu
see esp. fatalism for a contrast of determinism, fatalism and predeterminism.
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#209094 - 01/16/13 04:56 PM Re: the preterite & the elect [Re: tsuwm]
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Loc: R'lyeh Sheep go to heaven and goats go to hell._________________________
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#209098 - 01/16/13 07:21 PM Re: Determinism [Re: Jackie]
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Loc: Netherlands, the Hague "Determinism often is taken to mean simply causal determinism, which in physics is the idea known as cause-and-effect. It is the concept that events within a given paradigm are bound by causality in such a way that any state (of an object or event) is completely determined by prior states."
My at one time 17 year old son tried to convince me that as soon as all data about everything would be known and collected we would be able to completely control the course of events. He was quite certain this would happen. I don't know, they still can't get the weather forcast totally right.
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#209099 - 01/16/13 07:51 PM Re: Determinism [Re: BranShea]
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Posts: 13653 Originally Posted By: BranShea
My at one time 17 year old son tried to convince me that as soon as all data about everything would be known and collected we would be able to completely control the course of events. He was quite certain this would happen. I don't know, they still can't get the weather forcast totally right.
The only problem is that we will never know all the data about anything.
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