#208707 - 01/04/13 08:37 AM
Re: Cultural values
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Crows have been known to drop rocks on nuts to crack them. Wich made me think: A man domesticates a crow to be his nut-cracker, that's culture. A crow who uses a nut-cracker to crack nuts is a cultured crow. Hypothetically. 
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#208708 - 01/04/13 08:37 AM
Re: Cultural values
[Re: LukeJavan8]
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Crows have been known to drop rocks on nuts to crack them. Crows have been known to put nuts under the wheels of cars stopped for red lights to crack them.
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#208710 - 01/04/13 09:40 AM
Re: Cultural values
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I'm a bit late joining this debate - sorry, looking the other way1 FWIW - I go along with Branny and Jackie to a great extent, but would add that the word "culture" has become broadened over the years since Matthew Arnold started the debate in 1867 (Culture and Anarchy Cirnhill Magazine) It has become very contexturalised and can mean very different things to different people on different occasions. Which, I think, is very similar to Jackie's point.
Edited by Rhubarb Commando (01/04/13 09:40 AM) Edit Reason: typo
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#208712 - 01/04/13 11:52 AM
Re: Cultural values
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One could define "Culture" as a learned responce, as opposed to a genetic responce, to situational conditions, except (at last, my chance to name-drop) E.O. Wilson would disagree. I chatted with "Ed"  twice last year and both times he opined that collective ant behavior could best be described as ant Culture.
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#208722 - 01/04/13 03:05 PM
Re: Cultural values
[Re: maverick]
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I often think of cognates and other etymologically-related words when asked to define a term or word. Latin cultus 'worship' is rather neutral WRT connotations, but English cult is pejorative and getting more pejus all the time. Cultus is the past passive participle of Latin colo, colere. 'to care for (someone or something); tend, till'. Thus agriculture (caring for fields) and horticulture (caring for gardens).
I think of culture, in its modern meaning, as the sum total of knowledge things produced by an ethnos, folk, or some other societal group. I don't think of language as culture, but a vehicle for it. (Oh, well; not very original or deep.)
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#208723 - 01/04/13 03:40 PM
Re: Cultural values
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:¬ ) The cake is back too! Happy birthday!
Thank you!!
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#208725 - 01/04/13 04:03 PM
Re: Cultural values
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Yes, indeed, eta - Many Happies - have a R ight G ood day.. I shall raise a pint glas s to you ths evening.
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#208726 - 01/04/13 07:34 PM
Re: Cultural values
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Likewise, best for your next year.
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