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#208707 - 01/04/13 08:37 AM Re: Cultural values [Re: LukeJavan8]
BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5249 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8 Crows have been known to drop rocks on nuts to crack them. Wich made me think: A man domesticates a crow to be his nut-cracker, that's culture. A crow who uses a nut-cracker to crack nuts is a cultured crow. Hypothetically.
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#208708 - 01/04/13 08:37 AM Re: Cultural values [Re: LukeJavan8]
Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13653	Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8 Crows have been known to drop rocks on nuts to crack them. Crows have been known to put nuts under the wheels of cars stopped for red lights to crack them.
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#208710 - 01/04/13 09:40 AM Re: Cultural values [Re: maverick]
Rhubarb Commando old hand Registered: 11/13/11 Posts: 1023 Loc: Lancaster, UK	I'm a bit late joining this debate - sorry, looking the other way1 FWIW - I go along with Branny and Jackie to a great extent, but would add that the word "culture" has become broadened over the years since Matthew Arnold started the debate in 1867 (Culture and Anarchy Cirnhill Magazine) It has become very contexturalised and can mean very different things to different people on different occasions. Which, I think, is very similar to Jackie's point. Edited by Rhubarb Commando (01/04/13 09:40 AM) Edit Reason: typo _________________________ I'm immortal until proven otherwise
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#208712 - 01/04/13 11:52 AM Re: Cultural values [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
jenny jenny addict Registered: 06/05/10 Posts: 614 Loc: Lower Aberdeen, Mississippi	One could define "Culture" as a learned responce, as opposed to a genetic responce, to situational conditions, except (at last, my chance to name-drop) E.O. Wilson would disagree. I chatted with "Ed" twice last year and both times he opined that collective ant behavior could best be described as ant Culture.
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#208719 - 01/04/13 02:50 PM Re: Cultural values [Re: maverick]
BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5249 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	The ant master of the world chooses his words with care: ' that collective ant behavior could best be described as ant Culture.' He did not say 'ís ant Culture'. Till now we focussed on the sociological and anthropological part only. Culture certainly had become a very stretchable word. As Jackie mentioned: each one his own culture, his own value in spite of the general similarities? To Mavericks original question I still have no answer. 'What does the word culture mean to you?' All I can say is: "a lot" (which isn't much)
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#208721 - 01/04/13 03:00 PM Re: Cultural values [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5249 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	:¬ ) The cake is back too! As for the Alt and lowercase L I just took the easy road : 'beg, steal or borrow' :¬ ) Happy birthday!
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#208722 - 01/04/13 03:05 PM Re: Cultural values [Re: maverick]
zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3269 Loc: R'lyeh	I often think of cognates and other etymologically-related words when asked to define a term or word. Latin cultus 'worship' is rather neutral WRT connotations, but English cult is pejorative and getting more pejus all the time. Cultus is the past passive participle of Latin colo, colere. 'to care for (someone or something); tend, till'. Thus agriculture (caring for fields) and horticulture (caring for gardens). I think of culture, in its modern meaning, as the sum total of knowledge things produced by an ethnos, folk, or some other societal group. I don't think of language as culture, but a vehicle for it. (Oh, well; not very original or deep.) _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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#208723 - 01/04/13 03:40 PM Re: Cultural values [Re: BranShea]
Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 7184 Loc: Vermont	Originally Posted By: BranShea :¬ ) The cake is back too! Happy birthday! Thank you!! _________________________ formerly known as etaoin...
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#208725 - 01/04/13 04:03 PM Re: Cultural values [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
Rhubarb Commando old hand Registered: 11/13/11 Posts: 1023 Loc: Lancaster, UK	Yes, indeed, eta - Many Happies - have a R ight G ood day.. I shall raise a pint glas s to you ths evening. _________________________ I'm immortal until proven otherwise
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#208726 - 01/04/13 07:34 PM Re: Cultural values [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/08 Posts: 5279 Loc: Land of the Flat Water	Likewise, best for your next year. _________________________ ----please, draw me a sheep----
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