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#204000 - 01/02/12 10:15 AM numinous
murraystone stranger Registered: 09/05/05 Posts: 4 Loc: Alberta, Canada	Perhaps somebody out there will now be stimulated by "numinous" to propose a satisfactory translation for the University of Wisconsin's mysterious motto, "numen lumen". _________________________ Murray Stone, Westerose, Alberta
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#204007 - 01/02/12 04:05 PM Re: numinous [Re: murraystone]
BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5249 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	How satisfactory should it be? Link BTW. Just curious. Is Westerose a real town or city?
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#204013 - 01/02/12 08:46 PM Re: numinous [Re: BranShea]
Candy Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/10 Posts: 1705 Loc: down under	Wiki can be your friend, Bran Westerose Nice link to the hall....and I see the whole motto is "Astra castra, Numen lumen"....if thats the one Murraystone is referring too! Numen as relating to the mind rather than senses but also sometimes to the power or magic of an object...similar but different to 'mana' as used by the NZ Maori to describe value, great personal prestige of a person or thing.
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#204066 - 01/05/12 05:09 PM Re: numinous [Re: Candy]
BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5249 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	Some people here show invented locations or locations from stories. I was curious if Westerose refered to Westeros, one part of the various parts of imaginary worlds in the fantasy serial " A Song of Ice and Fire ".
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#204067 - 01/05/12 07:27 PM Re: numinous [Re: murraystone]
Candy Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/10 Posts: 1705 Loc: down under	True......maybe it is at that!
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#204082 - 01/06/12 07:33 AM Re: numinous [Re: Candy]
Rhubarb Commando old hand Registered: 11/13/11 Posts: 1029 Loc: Lancaster, UK	Or is it related to Wester Ross, in Scotland? "Wester Ross is geographically regarded as the western watershed of Ross-shire, but administrative and political boundaries diverge from this and have been subject to several changes and inconsistencies. Wester Ross is a popular scenic tourism destination, although the level of this has declined considerably since the 1970s. Tourism still forms a major part of the economic activity of the area, particularly with the dramatic declines in fishing over the same period. Wester Ross contains notable beauty spots such as Loch Maree, Inverewe Garden, Corrieshalloch Gorge, Glen Docherty and Bealach na Ba. But it is its mountains for which Wester Ross is renowned, in a unique and very old landscape." _________________________ I'm immortal until proven otherwise
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#204083 - 01/06/12 07:37 AM Re: numinous [Re: BranShea]
Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13653	Originally Posted By: BranShea Some people here show invented locations or locations from stories. I was curious if Westerose refered to Westeros, one part of the various parts of imaginary worlds in the fantasy serial " A Song of Ice and Fire ". Or vice versa. The bare numen lumen is the motto of the University of Wisconsin, a fair distance from Westeros(e).
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#204084 - 01/06/12 11:00 AM Re: numinous [Re: Faldage]
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 10463 Loc: this too shall pass	here's what the UofW has to say 'officially' regarding numen lumen (dig the expanded version given by UW's first chancellor, John Lathrop!) link
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#204120 - 01/08/12 02:02 PM Re: numinous [Re: tsuwm]
BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5249 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	It's more and more becoming alum aluminium to me. Thanks all for letting your light shine.
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#204128 - 01/09/12 08:06 AM Re: numinous bilious [Re: BranShea]
zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3269 Loc: R'lyeh	alum aluminium Not wuite sure what all the hubbub's about. Latin numen (literally 'nod (of the head)' means something like 'divine will, godhead' or 'divinity' in an abstract sort of way (the Romans have some many named gods). I like the term god's nod; it just lighted up my day. From what I read in the University's take on their motto, it's the syntax of numen lumen that some classicists carp on. This doesn't make much sense to me. Associating a god's power with some kind of bright light seems almost a cliche to me, but who knows ... _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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