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#203050 - 11/04/11 02:58 AM Fabric Words used metaphorically
Umber Offline
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Flannel is used in the UK to describe plausible untruths. "You are speaking a load of flannel". "That person's a flanneler".

I believe the expressions were prevalent during the war years.


Edited by Umber (11/04/11 03:07 AM)

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#203062 - 11/04/11 08:10 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: Umber]
Candy Offline
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Hi Umber
I've not come across that saying before....I wonder if its like a saying we have down under "load of old cods wollop"
as in an untrue statement or remark!

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#203066 - 11/04/11 11:33 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: Candy]
Happy Birthday bexter Offline
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hehe I haven't heard that for AGES! Also use it to say how useless people are when doing something or asking them do something for you: "You're worse than a wet flannel", or a bit pathetic "ach, stop being such a wet flannel". Ah the English English language is wonderfully expansive wink
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#203084 - 11/05/11 03:28 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: Candy]
Tromboniator Offline
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Originally Posted By: Candy
cods wollop


Candy, I've seen this as one word often enough (Rowling's Rubeus Hagrid is fond of it, for example), but never as two. Is two the fashion down under?

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#203086 - 11/05/11 03:44 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: Umber]
Candy Offline
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I'm not sure Peter. I hear it often but I don't recall seeing it written.

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#203087 - 11/05/11 04:53 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: Candy]
Tromboniator Offline
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There doesn't seem to be a definitive answer. It may or may not have started as two words, but its first known appearance in print, second half of 20th century, has it as one word. Here is Michael Quinion's explanation, which should be better than most.

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#203090 - 11/05/11 11:13 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: Umber]
BranShea Offline
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Would in this case flannel be a more civilized equal to bullshit? Umber?

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#203101 - 11/06/11 04:15 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: bexter]
BranShea Offline
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Originally Posted By: bexter
Also use it to say how useless people are when doing something or asking them do something for you: "You're worse than a wet flannel", or a bit pathetic "ach, stop being such a wet flannel". Ah the English English language is wonderfully expansive wink
We use something similar though it's mostly used in team sports : "You play like a wet newspaper". Flannel of course has more elegance.

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#203114 - 11/07/11 07:45 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: BranShea]
Happy Birthday bexter Offline
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We are by nature, an elegant tongue wink even if people are beginning to misuse and forget that grammar exists smirk
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#203117 - 11/07/11 09:51 AM Re: Fabric Words used metaphorically [Re: bexter]
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Originally Posted By: bexter
We are by nature, an elegant tongue wink even if people are beginning to misuse and forget that grammar exists smirk


Or either that or ignoring zombie rules, one.

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