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sailworthy (listed as obs. rare by OED) Of weather: Admitting of the use of sails.
The weather was perfectly sailworthy just hours before the hurricane struck. ___
but in somewhat limited use today in a slightly different sense.. Of sailboats: in good sailing condition
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Maybe the transfer in meaning from weather to boat happened since the time sailboats got outboard or inboard engines. The weather became less of an issue? Hurricanes of course would still mean 'unsailworthy', but wind still is no longer a problem.
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tardiloquent obs. rare Speaking slowly, slow-speaking
in Reading the OED, Ammon Shea suggests, "In my estimation, there are only two possible reasons people speak slowly. Either they are not quite bright enough to get the words out any faster or they think you aren't quite bright enough to understand them any other way. In either case you're stuck in a conversation with someone who is tardiloquent, and something has gone horribly wrong."
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there could be a third way.... I've noticed when people talk to the hard of hearing, their speech slows too.
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there could be a third way.... I've noticed when people talk to the hard of hearing, their speech slows too. as one who has ~50% hearing loss*, I often need to tell people not to speak up but to slow down.. *this effectively means I'm guessing half the time at what was just said!
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Where googling tardiloquent gives 0 hits and instead presents ample entries for grandiloquent, the word gaudiloquent: speaking with joy or happiness, gets 169 , which is pretty obscure too. * I hope you can 100% read what was just written
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gaudiloquent: speaking with joy or happiness I love it! Thank you!
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Not just the hard of hearing, but also those who speak a different language. And, not just more slowly, but louder, too, as if that makes the meaning more clear. *lol* I have a hard time hearing (too many rock concerts and guns) certain kinds of voices (lower range, such as mens voices)and often find myself watching peoples lips instead of looking at their faces to help myself distinguish words.
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Fast moving speakers, or those who speak quickly,softly when not facing a camera, are those I often miss. Frequenly I'll rewind the disc to see again what they said. But if not facing the camera it skips right on by: poor cinematic directing.
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I thought once that I saw a word (maybe made up?) for that phenomenon of speaking loudly and slowly to someone who didn't speak the same language. But, maybe I am just making THAT up, but I think it was on one of those lists of 'fractured' words.
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I've also noticed, with my degraded hearing, that people almost always lower the volume of their voices when they're wrapping up whatever it is they're saying. Frequently this comes when they're getting to the point they're trying to make. I'll hear the lead up to what they're trying to get across but not the conclusion.
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I'll hear the lead up to what they're trying to get across but not the conclusion. Oh, dear, that is truly terrible...
Seriously, I have read that if you want to get people to pay closer attention, lower your voice. That may be why.
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I'll hear the lead up to what they're trying to get across but not the conclusion. Oh, dear, that is truly terrible...
Seriously, I have read that if you want to get people to pay closer attention, lower your voice. That may be why. Oftentimes in a classroom that would work better than raising the voice.
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btw, is there no antonym for tardiloquent like f.i. hastiloquent? I knew a little boy who talked so fast he couldn't even follow what he was saying himself and ended up at the logopedist's.
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I'd go with celerloquent or maybe celeriloquent. Or, if you don't mind mixing Greek and Latin roots, tachyloquent.
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Celerloquent does not run that smooth and celeriloquent smells of celery. Tachyloquent looks nice as long as it means fast and veloquent (trombion) reminds of bicycles.
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Celerloquent does not run that smooth and celeriloquent smells of celery. Tachyloquent looks nice as long as it means fast and veloquent (trombion) reminds of bicycles. I agree on celerloquent. Celeriloquent is pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable. And yes, the tachy- in tachyloquent is from the Greek for fast.
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zoomiloquent or tsuwmiloquent
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zoomiloquent or tsuwmiloquent If mixing Greek and Latin roots isn't edgy enough for you. And tsuwmiloquent would mean 'using obscure or worthless words.'
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that's as may be, but I was using the really obscure (Hebrew) sense of tsuwm, meaning 'to fast' (as apposed to zoom, 'too fast').
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that's as may be, but I was using the really obscure (Hebrew) sense of tsuwm, meaning 'to fast' (as apposed to zoom, 'too fast'). Is that 'to fast' as in not eat food?
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Celeriloquent is pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable. Wha-at?? Cel-AIR-iloquent is impossible; cel-AIR-IL-oquent is just too...mooz.
And, tsuwm, NOW you tell us, after fourteen years, that your name is from Welsh?!
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>Welsh?! Welsh?? are you accusing me of welching?!
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Celeriloquent is pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable. Wha-at?? Cel-AIR-iloquent is impossible Impossible for you, maybe. Rolls right off MY tongue. But then I grew up in a part of the country we we learn to speak distinctly. And you've got it divided up kinda funny-like. It's suh LAIR uh luh kwent.
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But then I grew up in a part of the country we we learn to speak distinctly.
Oui oui or wee-wee?
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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faculent
(fr. L. fax, torch) obs. rare Giving forth light like a torch; bright, clear
compare luculent (not to be confused with feculent!)
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fax must have wanderbursched off to fakkel and fackel in Germanic languages. = torch
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Fatiloquent Fa*til"o*quent\, a. [See Fatiloquist.] Prophetic; fatidical. [Obs.]
Fatiloquist Fa*til"o*quist\, n. [L. fatiloquus declaring fate; fatum fate+ Loqui to speak.] A fortune teller.
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So which is the more prestigious one: the quent or the quist? What's the difference between loquent and loquist, you lurking latinists?
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So which is the more prestigious one: the quent or the quist? What's the difference between loquent and loquist, you lurking latinists? loquent would be an adjective and loquist a noun.
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Which keeps me wondering why a Fatiloquist is not a Holy Prophet, but a cheapy greasy fortune teller. Why is the adjective prophet and the noun profane?
( maybe I'm scripticritic after all )
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>maybe I'm scripticritic after all
or maybe just a criticaster.
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Welsh?? are you accusing me of welching?! Naw--it just occurred to me that tsuwm rhymes with cwm--well, almost.
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Welsh?? are you accusing me of welching?! Naw--it just occurred to me that tsuwm rhymes with cwm--well, almost. where's dat bashing head into brick wall icon? you know the one I mean.
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-it just occurred to me that tsuwm rhymes with cwm--well, almost.
I thought you'd pronounce tsuwm with about 4 syllables.
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so....I am still waiting for that word that describes people who talk more slowly and loudly to people who speak a different language. ??
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You'll probably have a long wait.
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so....I am still waiting for that word that describes people who talk more slowly and loudly to people who speak a different language. ??
Americans? Monoglots? But seriously, I don't think there is a word.
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Troglodyloquists.
( Hello Luke, how about giving it a try yourself? ) ;-)
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Try to find va-vavoom a word that does not exist.
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Sorry, I lost track of the theme of this thread until va-vavoom's question. The earlier stuff was too "out there" to grasp my interest. I am afraid I have to agree with Zm and say I do not know of a word to fit the question. Your's is good however, as good as any, better than most.
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Xenolarghissimofortiloquent?
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Xenolarghissimofortiloquent? Fantastic word.
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Definitely containing all the ingredients, but quite a mouthful of it.
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Xenolarghissimofortiloquent? And it just rolls off the tongue. It has my vote: what think you va-vavoom??
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Pauciloquent
Pau*cil"o*quent\, a. Uttering few words; brief in speech. [R.]
"In my estimation pauciloquists are brief in speech because they have little to say or they have so much to say they can't even imagine where to begin." -anon.
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Can you say that loudly and slowly for me please? *lol* Really, I swear I saw a word for it somewhere!
I love the 'hiss' in the middle of this, because isn't that just what you feel like doing when the other person doesn't understand you (whether from not speaking the same language or being deaf) no matter how much you raise your voice and enunciate?
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I think I can say it, but don't know how on this site unless using phonetic signs (for which I'd probably later be blasted for using the wrong ones.)
You like the hiss sound because of your love of reptiles.
This words still has my vote on this thread.
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