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Just answering a question that was asked. These are for you, as well as the ones you named. From "The Masculine Mystique."
# Internet Presence - Even though more people use the web to buy greeting cards than porn, everyone assumes that the primary use of the web is pornography. The Internet has been claimed by popular culture to be a giant men's club.
# Privilege of Ownership - Men can take the best of anything that is available, even if it belongs to someone else. Women who complain are castigated for being sensitive or "petty". Plagarism laws protect men's work more than women's work. When a man finds something for the first time, he can lay claim to "first discovering" it with little fear of correction. [Thanks to Lilithc]
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Actually, piewackett, I did read Feminism 101 and it bored me. Thus, the no comment.
If you had just put up number 6 in the first place, everything would have been alright.
You see, when someone tosses out a request for a simple definition and you reply with an approximately 3000 word incoherent treatise, well, you can't seriously expect someone to just voluntarily leap into that particular blast furnace.
Now, if I were searching for feminine or feminist views --as I sometimes do-- that would have been more than appropriate. Even generous, I daresay. (Though, I probably wouldn't have come to Wordsmith to find that.)
In essence, the strawman that you've tried to prop up here isn't buying any bayonets today. I wish you luck in your endeavours to find a villain under every rock.
Now, I think I'll watch a little porno before turning in for the night. Cheers.
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Both and prove my point. Movies designed mainly to appeal to males do not need to be so designated because the male point of view is considered the norm. Romantic comedies can also be called chick flicks, Action films can also be called guy flicks. The most effective phrase in maintaining the patriarchy is "Wait till your father comes home."
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I think for the moment I'll just watch and see.
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How many families still have fathers? Good fathers I mean.
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Would it be: the subconscious awareness experienced by a woman who has assumed and attempts to adopt the standard of beauty which provokes the salivating, gob-smacked leer of an XY breeder? Getting back to this proposed definition (which might be close to what this gaze is all about) I cannot but assume that the definition could easily be mirrored by an internalized female gaze. "the subconcious awareness expierenced by a man who attempts to adopt to the standard of (whatever makes a man atractive; we all know that beauty for women and for men is just only part of the game) which provoques the attention of a woman". BTW, 'male breeder' is that correct? Doesn't the female do the breeding while the male is just the 'provider'?
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Last I checked, it takes two to breed. But maybe things are starting to turn around.
"A man falls in love through his eyes, a woman through her ears." Woodrow Wyatt
In my experience, perhaps it's true that sexually successful women attempt to LOOK LIKE what men find attractive; and while many modern men might do the vice versa (i.e. metrosexuality), I think that men more often than not feel that they must BE what a woman wants.
Confident, successful, clever, witty, talented, these are things that women look for in a man more than the visual ... although the right shoes seem to be rather important.
I'll add anecdotally that I once adopted the caring, sensitive attitude of an enlightened man. And while I made a lot of friends in that period, I never got laid. All my newfound female friends kept running away with machos. Go figure. Now that I'm a pig again, I can hardly get any privacy.
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I see, I definitely was mistaken.
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About breeding or something more arcane?
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Not much. I was under the impression that you were just tossing out a request for a simple definition.
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